Back in the dos days of x286 and 386 some manufactures stored the bios on the harddrive. they did away with that because if you did a total format on the drive. Your bios went and your computer would lock up. Now they do give control to video card, screen and keyboard. you always had access to the harddrive. But if you want to add or change some hardware. You still have to do that within the bios. For example you can not change the boot order form any os. Now with your newer laptops you can't even turn off the boot locker or internal hardware finger print stored in the cpu unless you go through the bios. And those are the 2 things that make it hard to go from win 8 back to xp or even win 7. The cpu finger print is what programmers use to lock there software to a single computer and that is making game piracy very hard to do now.

At 04:15 AM 11/18/2015, you wrote:
I don't know but every bios from dos to windows everything is accessable via the internal apps updates are controled inside the os to.



On 18/11/2015 6:58 a.m., englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
Toshiba's bios are accessible? How the heck can you make bios accessible?


Thanks,
Ari

On Nov 16, 2015, at 3:44 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm I had a nec which had the same issues didn't last that long.
I had a system hp to maintain that overheated.
As long as you can get passed their malware asus stuff is generally stable and rock solid. I havn't used their laptops but their desktop graphics and main boards are and I have had no issue with either from a hardware standpoint. Some del units seem good to though I still go toshiba just because of the accessible bios alone and a few other tweaks.
They also use standard hardware,  for sound etc these days.
On the hp front their website is quite unfriendly driver site, eprint, etc.
However their printers especially their web enabled ones are quite good.



On 16/11/2015 11:44 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi,

I have similar experiences. I now avoid HP like the plague myself
because their systems tend to be very below the par on average, and I
know others with similar experiences. My dad, for instance, had a HP
laptop for about six months, very barely used, and it died. So I don't
generally buy HP anything if I can help it these days.


On 11/16/15, englishride...@gmail.com <englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. I avoid HP like the plague now. The first and only laptop I got from
them kept having issue after issue, where both of my Dells, except for one
problem, have run for years before giving up the ghost. One lasted for six
years, and The other lasted for five years and seven months. Technically the one that lasted for six years still works, since I put Vinux onto it after I
couldn't find my XP disc's after reformatting the system after I got a
rather nasty virus that I was having a ton of trouble removing.

I can't wait to have a solid-state drive in the new laptop that I'm getting soon. It's going to be awesome! It'll be my first system with eight gigs of RAM and a 2.9 Core i5 processor; it's the architecture that's one generation behind the new Skylake processors, but that's fine for me. The model I'll be
getting is a Lenovo ThinkPad T450S.


Thanks,
Ari

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