If there is an updated version of the VIP pack I would love to get a
hold of it. I am sure the pack I have is a couple years old. Over all
to me this is a really good game. Some of the commands get to me
sometimes but that is something that changes between games. Like maybe
because I am use to things this way I would love to be able to type
move to the name of place instead of having to type move then pick a
number in a list. I am talking about when flying around. Also asking
here because I am not sure. Is there away to have tracking tell you
coords of a ship. Instead of north east and so on? Also with this new
sp is there a sound for changing between sectors?
Thanks for any answers to these questions.

On 5/28/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
> Hi Mike.
>
> Nope I had no pack so whenever I was told where the ship was it was super
> spammy.
>
> I can see the advantage in vector aiming though how do you aim down? Also as
>
> I said there was a bug sinse whenever I typed "aim +" or "aim + 4" or
> something like that I got told "choose a coordinate on the new z axis" or
> something like that and I couldn't actually aim at all. I got lucky with the
>
> rat in the tutorial sinse it was west of me and I could just type aim 4
> which worked.
> Also, why the hell is tracking so spammy, I dn't need to be told "a computer
>
> voice says" bl bla can't it just give the coordinates? really this is a
> major fault in the game and considering I had one ship destroyed and one
> nearly crippled it was pretty serious, and I've got my voice rate set pretty
>
> high.
>
> I prefer vip, so a vip pack would be nice anyway, as Vip works much better
> with sapi than mush does (reviewing and such is easier), but I will confess
>
> I'm a little irritated that a pac is necessary, sinse I thought the game was
>
> intended to be accessible off the bat anyway, really the staff should do a
> better job with combat display here and I'm surprised nobody has mentioned
> this before.
>
> If you could send me the pack I might try again, although I confess I'm a
> bit irritated with the game thus far as it seems amazingly harsh when you
> screw up.
> I logged out and got one ship blown up, bye bye starter lone, I messed up a
>
> ground combat (which I admit was my fault), then I got one ship severely
> crippled and one ship blown to bits in twoimpossible combats leaving me with
>
> no money, no ship, no suit and no way to progress, and  all the suggestion I
>
> got was "go beg my alliance" who didn't particularly help either (not that
> I'd go begging money off people).
>
> I couldn't even take out a lone.
>
> If you send me the pack I might give the game another try.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Wassel" <blindndanger...@aim.com>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 6:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Star conquest very irritating
>
>
>> Hey dark,
>>
>> I'm glad you asked here, and now that I know it was you, I can help.  Do
>> you have a pack for SC?  Their is one for VIP, and once we're done
>> updating the one for VIP, I'm going to port it to mushclient.  The reason
>>
>> I couldn't say this to you on newbie, is because the staff don't like
>> players talking about packs on the game.  Once our pack is approved by the
>>
>> staff, we can though.  If you need the pack for vip, I can drop you a
>> link. Now for your questions.
>>
>> I'm guessing that you didn't have the pack, so combat was a ton harder for
>>
>> you.  With the pack, you'll see the following:
>>
>> tracking <enemy>
>>
>> <direction>
>>
>> In SC, their are two ways to lock on to an enemy.  Coords and vectors.  My
>>
>> guess is that you had coords selected as your preferred aiming method.  I
>>
>> use vector aiming. W is north, A is west, D is east, and so on.
>>
>> For aiming up and down, I do aim -s, or +s. Remember that sine S is at the
>>
>> center of WASD, it tells the game to aim either directly up, or down.  You
>>
>> can change this with aim +w, aim -x, and so on.
>>
>> Let me know if this helps, and if you need the pack.  Hope you decide to
>> give the game another try with this information.
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> On 5/27/2016 2:12 PM, dark wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> Well I have asked this on audiogames.net so might as well ask here.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Promethius I find a little incoherent for my taste in terms of activities
>>>
>>> and what not, miriani I don't like the idea of all the pvp and license to
>>>
>>> grief, so I decided to try star conquest. I have heard the bit about the
>>>
>>> enforced rp and profile creation but I thought I tried that, however I've
>>>
>>> not had a game where I've failed quite so badly.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I did the tutorial and talked to the new pilot lieason office and did the
>>>
>>> tasks he said. Expooring and salvage were fine but combat was a real
>>> pest, mostly because there is no quick way to get the coordinates of the
>>>
>>> enemy and by the time you've heard the computer saying "rat automated
>>> starship at 3 4 5 " the bloody thing has likely moved, ---- and no I am
>>> not rewritng my entire mud client just to play one game with all the
>>> scripting and such, I have no idea how to do that I just want to play not
>>>
>>> program.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I did try ground combat and that was cool, accept I got my battlesuit
>>> blown up which I freely admit was entirely my faultfor not bailing fast
>>> enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> i then quit the game and lost my cargo hauler leaving me with two sets of
>>>
>>> massive bills and no ship. I just about! had enough for a flitter which I
>>>
>>> bought, and tried a little combat again, and got completely slaughtered,
>>>
>>> particularly sinse the aim + command for aiming up in combat just didn't
>>>
>>> work, I was told "select a direction on the z axis"
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> How the hell does anyone! do combat in this game?
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> with no money, and no ship I was stuck (nd I couldn't get a lone either
>>> sinse I kept getting refused), and the only advice I got was go and beg
>>> on alliance channel. People were actually very nice on the newby channel,
>>>
>>> but didn't really have any suggestions.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> I'd rather not make myself a pain to other players especially when i'm
>>> learning a game and making so many major mistakes, so I deleted my
>>> character.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Given however that a lot of people do! play star conquest, I wonder, how
>>>
>>> the hell do people do it? am I missing something about combat? or does it
>>>
>>> take all that scripting nonsense, ie, the game is not accessible without
>>>
>>> massive amounts of work.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Any advice appreciated sinse I really want to play a space game, I did
>>> enjoy the background and some of the activities, but I am frankly now
>>> rather frustrated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Back to alter methinks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dark.
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