Hmmm I wouldn't run a petition at all.
A recent studdy here has shown these to be feel good things to make us
feel as if we are doing something.
But online petitions are non binding.
Ie you don't have to accept these at all.
They could be spam, and once those sites have your email who knows what
viruses/ spam/ fishing attacks you will then get.
Bottem line, they don't work.
The mainstream market just doesn't want audiogames like that.
At least the big companies.
I work for sonnar interactive, a small new zealand company.
I had a lot of news I posted, and allready on the audiogames forum I see
the post waaaaay down the first page, and by tomorrow it will be off of
that meaning the interest is 0.
Audio games do cost a lot we will need 5000 to 50000 to make things,
1000 for small game.
So yes it costs a lot to make games not the millions it may cost but
depends what you do and use.
For example, a lot of my sfx are from sound libraries that I pulled of
private servers by others in the audio production industry, some I have
directly pulled from games, others are my own but not many.
It costs a lot to actually buy sfx, and while I have spent about 300
bucks on royalty free sfx, it is certainly harder to justify the spend
on high quality libraries especially when there is a lot out there.
Voice acters cost, the website, domain, cost, everything for the games
cost so yeah while maybe a little less in the tens to hundreds of
thousands instead of millions I'd like to assure users that things may
not even pan out.
On 26/10/2016 4:07 a.m., Justin Jones wrote:
I would remind you that developing an audio game is not nearly as
expensive as a mainstream game. If it cost ten million dollars, then
yes, it would not be worth the overhead and effort to develop it. I am
positive that developing an audio game would be a fraction of that
cost and would not require nearly as much to make a profit from.
In any instance, I have drafted letters to Blizzard, Obsidian
Entertainment, Bethesda Softworks and Bioware. I have not sent these
letters as of yet, but I would be willing to do so, if, perhaps, a few
of you would be willing to take a look/add your signatures. Or, we
could try and start up a petition to some of these companies to at
least consider the merits of developing a game.
Thoughts?
On 10/25/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Actually in terms of the sort of prophet that mainstream developers want, I
don't think there are enough blind people to matter, even if everyond di!
buy the game.
These people talk in the millions, or at least in the hundreds of thousands,
not in the hundreds or at most a couple of thousands that could be had from
the accessible games community.
On the other hand, indi developers would! recognize the advantage, and also
tend to be much more easy to contact given that all the developers for
mainstream games are hidden in bunkers somehwere and impossible to talk to,
that when games aren't designed by board room committees anyway.
So, mainstream no, I don't think it'll happen, but good indi games? most
definitely, indeed it already has, and we're likely to see more in the
future.
All the best,
Dark.
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for very long. Please contact me on my other public address, d...@xgam.org.
When I have a new private address, I will let everyone know.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Jones" <atreides...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] memory
No, actually, there is not a way to make current mainstream games
accessible, unless, of course, they already have accessibility
features built in.
It does not help us (blind folks), but all of Relic Entertainment's
games provide subtitles for all spoken dialogue in their games,
starting with Company of Heroes and onward.
If we want accessible games, we are going to have to find a way to
convince a mainstream developer, i.e. any company that develops
mainstream games, to take a crack at creating something for us. But,
and here is the thing, it has to be presented in such a way that they
will be able to make a profit, i.e. we (the blind community) have to
be willing to pay for it and not complain how it is not free to play.
On 10/25/16, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Steam pisses me off majorly. The xbox one and ps4 are both accessible.
So if they was away for narator to pull the text from games we would
be golden. I still love my consoles even though you can get a lot of
the same games for computers. My comp only has 6 gb of ram and
probably not the best graphics card anyways. All I have ever really
wanted is for main stream games to be accessible and I am sure there
is away to do this.
On 10/25/16, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Sadly "just having the sounds turned into pictures" is easier said
than
done, likewise I doubt game stop (which I assume is rather like game
station
is over here in the Uk), would stock independently produced games.
If there was an audiogames console, the plane fact is only blind people
would buy it and it's doubtful anyone would develop games with graphics
for
it. Plus, to be brutally honest, why should I pay for additional
hardware
when I already have a computer and an Iphone that can play games no
problem?
When a sighted person buys a games consoles, there are lots of games
that
won't! be available on their pc, or mac or whatever, however as a blind
person that is not the case, and I don't think you could find a
dedicated
list of developers willing to write games for a new platform when they
could
already develop games for Windows pc, Ios, or even Mac or Android and
know
they'd have a dedicated pool of users who already have the hardware and
inclination to buy their games without laying out additional costs.
Developing audiogames for actual graphical consoles like the
playstation
or
xbox might be a possibility, though even there you have the problem of
firstly how a blind person accesses the text in the game with no
software
or os based synthesisers (I have heard importing of things like sapi
onto
Xbox and ps4 has been tried but I'm not sure how it went), also
manifestly
you have the problem that only some blind users will have consoles, and
of
the potential sighted users of games consoles it's uncertain how many
would
buy an audiogame anyway making development of it worth while.
Game consoles come from a time when most people didn't own computers,
and
when the dedicated processing power and potentials of the hardware was
far
more than a similar computer system. That however is fading these days
no
longer the case, most people already own a computer or smart phone and
can
play games on it, indeed I've heard steam (irritating as it is for
their
lack of access), called the next step in consoles, ie, a virtual os
that
doesn't come with any hardware at all but runs on the user's own
existing
devices.
So bottom line, I don't really think a console for the blind would work
at
all, at most it'd mean laying out extra expense for a few users and
for
developers to write for a platform with potentially even less users
than
normal, and it's even less likely that such a console would be picked
up
by
sighted people.
Better focus on platforms everyone! has access too than try to create
another, heck look at the interest by sighted players in games like
pappasangre on the Iphone.
all the best,
Dark.
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