>From what I see on the Withdraw skill, at least the thief version, it
only needs another valid target available to let you withdraw.  The
warrior version does require you to be in a group with other players.

I'll have to testit out though to see how it works.  I don't see the
necro as a total lost level though, and probably would have gone that
way even if withdraw doesn't work as I think.

Denny

On 1/17/17, Justin Jones <atreides...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The withdraw skill does (or did not) work as you think. I tried that
> too, with the clay man, but Withdraw only works in groups of other
> players. Unless they have changed this, you just wasted a level.
>
> Stealing is tricky as you need very high dex and charisma. When you
> can get it, fast talking is a must. Just be careful with stealing
> though: when you are caught, they will try to murder you.
>
> On 1/17/17, Denny Schwab <denny.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On thieves...
>>
>> For Backstab, the little I know is that if you hide you do more damage
>> as you backstab.  Otherwise I believe it is probably mostly
>> skilllevel/hitroll/damroll that make the most difference, but I too
>> would like more info there.
>>
>> I have a character I am playing that is a thief/mage/cleric/necro.  My
>> reason for the necro was to give the ability to create a clay golem if
>> needed, so I could withdraw from battle when necessary.  Not sure how
>> that works yet, since I have not tried it out myself, having just
>> added the Necro class yesterday.
>>
>> A question I would like to add is how the Steal skill works.  I have
>> tried casing all types of NPC characters, but have never found one
>> that says it has items to steal.  What am I doing wrong?  I have no
>> problem shoplifting from most any shopkeeper, but stealing seems to be
>> a different matter.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Denny
>>
>> On 1/17/17, Justin Jones <atreides...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We are getting off topic here, but:
>>>
>>> 1. Gold from sacrificing corpses, quests, once in a while as loot or
>>> steal
>>> it.
>>> 2. You can buy practices with credits (and I have done, and will
>>> probably do this from time to time), but I'd get my hands on a
>>> weightless container first. Unless you are a mage as your primary
>>> class (tensor's floating disc), buying a weightless is a must.
>>>
>>> Back to the original topic: does anyone have answers to my questions
>>> concerning thieves? Thanks
>>>
>>> On 1/17/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hmmm how do you donate to alterian.
>>>> I am not playing that much to need me to donate, but depending on how
>>>> long credits last, I guess I could probably bue a couple thousand maybe
>>>> 3000 every half year or so, it would depend on what I used them for.
>>>> I would use them initially for skill training, but to be honest
>>>> depending on how much practices cost I think its 250 bucks, it will be
>>>> almost impossible to buy credits this way indeffinately.
>>>> This may mean I will have to level up and not buy that new skill or so
>>>> till I have enough while using credits for some things when I need
>>>> them.
>>>> How does one get gold bar quests I have never got more than a few
>>>> thousand and I always tend to end up using most of it for things.
>>>> I have never completed the lost ring quest in vermarken or found the
>>>> challace for pelam, didd it once forgot what I did.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17/01/2017 6:34 p.m., Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>> Credits happen by donations to alteraeon most often and sometimes on
>>>>> special events.
>>>>>
>>>>> equivalent is $10.00 per 1,000 credits if I have the exchange rate
>>>>> right.
>>>>> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, Shaun Everiss wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:27:01
>>>>>> From: Shaun Everiss <sm.ever...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>>>> To: Gamers Discussion list <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon - Thief
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One thing I have wandered and wanted to do is train some stats like
>>>>>> dex and stuff, however I have gone warrior, cleric and then mage I
>>>>>> have not touched the other classes yet.
>>>>>> I prefur when I can a physical skillset with a few spells chucked in
>>>>>> where I can.
>>>>>> I have heard you can get credits to buy things, but how does one
>>>>>> actually get credits?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17/01/2017 3:28 p.m., Justin Jones wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am going to reset my thief character in Alter Aeon. He is kind of
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> mess with pracs placed in things they really ought not to be placed
>>>>>>> in. This time around, I want to optimize him as best I can. I am
>>>>>>> thinking of focusing on combat/assassination/stealing everything
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> isn't nailed to the ground. To that end, I have a couple of
>>>>>>> questions:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. I am assuming that stat focus for a thief ought to be dexterity
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> charisma? Obviously, I will want to work on the other stats too, but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am guessing that these are my primary ones for the thief?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. I am thinking of going thief, mage, warrior, cleric. Any
>>>>>>> alternative suggestions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Now, for my first point of confusion: what does thief level on
>>>>>>> gear
>>>>>>> actually do? I mean, from a mechanics standpoint?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. The other point that confuses me is what a thief actually needs
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> backstab? I have seen hitroll and I have seen damroll. I am wary of
>>>>>>> some of the players on Alter and am not sure when I am being trolled
>>>>>>> and not. So, I figure I would ask here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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