i don't blame you one bit, when you see what's taking place with your hard 
work, when people could just get it off some website.
it's like you doing something and putting your best stuff into it, and 
getting to find out some one is making money off your produce.
that could be a pain. it's the same thing with my band and cd's.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software


> it's all about economics.
> these companys like gw micro and fredom scientific have to charge a lot of
> money to pay their bills.  realize they pay tech support people, sales
> people, programmers, as well as everyone else who works there.  they have 
> to
> pay for a ton of other things, so it's no surprise the software is
> expensive.  is it fair?  no.  but, it's the way it is.  and the blind
> computer market is a nich market, and piracy does hurt.  not to stray too
> far off topic or anything, but I still think it's wrong that people host
> these sites where others have public access to illegal software.  and 
> maybe
> I have a biossed opinion, but then my games are up there on this site. 
> so
> would you blame me?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Talksina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software
>
>
>> well,
>> not to open a flame about this, but, talking about other
>> blind-related software, they are really really really too expensive!
>> I do not talk about games, that cost maximum 40 euro. And, that, for
>> example, a user wanting to play a game, can use his/her money to buy
>> the game, instead of... buying cigarettes, or something else that is
>> damaging his health.
>> But what, in my opinion, is too expensive, are other kind of
>> softwares. Think about Jaws, Window-Eyes, Talks or MobileSpeak for
>> mobile phones, Sapi5 synths (such as Loquendo)...
>> Your discussion is valid for games, or small softwares (such as
>> VoiceEmotion or PowerGramo, the voip assistants), goldwave, sound
>> forge and so on
>> But you lie to yourself if you say that you wouldn't desire to have
>> free access to your computer or mobile phone, or, at least, to spend
>> less money! Not to have to spend the double price because we are
>> blind, for a device which is sold to sighted people with an accessible
>> price
>> Yes, they could develop something free in that case, too. There is a
>> tool called NVDA for computers, and a Sapi5 called eSpeak, not high
>> quality but open source and free
>> but not for mobile phones
>> In general, I am against software piracy, as it damages the
>> alternative free or low-cost software, but I do not lie to myself:
>> most of softwares we NEED, are a real theft.
>> Think about what happened on eMule 2 years ago
>> An anonymous user, having the machine on 24 hours a day, started to
>> distribute a file called "nokia talks 2.xx IMEI key generator", which
>> just contained an executable wich, once launched, destroyed all
>> computer data: everything in hard disk, internal or external or
>> partitions, was removed
>> There is no possibility to get any proof on that, but many people
>> thought (and think) this comes from Nuance, Talks producer, but
>> writing this on the Internet, as there are no proof, could cause
>> problems. So, as we say in Italy, "incarta e porta a casa". That is,
>> literally translated, pack it and take it home. It means, take it as it 
>> is
>>
>>
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