I don't download music illegally. All the music I have on my computers, audio players, ETC is music which I've riped from my own cds which I've purchased? Am I guilty of copying music in the past? Sure I am, I would be lying if I said I've never copied music, dvd movies, etc, but like Tom, I've seen the truth that steeling is steeling, whether it's music, movies, games, software, or physical things from a store.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make you or anyone else forced to feel the way i do, I just want to point out that when someone says that pirating software is not the same as music, they are obviously convincing themselves and they are wrong with that. But that is just my opinion, and like certain body orifices, everyone has one. shaun everiss said the following on 2/5/2008 3:25 AM: > I tried to program but gave in, did some courses and just didn't get > interested. > I do try to stay as legally free if I can, about 98% of software is free, > shareware with no demo or limitation or opensource windows, flashxp and prity > much all the games here on are purchaced ones. > The rest, well its very small. > I must admit I do get music, who doesn't get music, and audio, its mostly for > me to listen to I don't share it much at all. > And audiobooks. > I do have lagit mp3s too. > At 03:49 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote: >> Yeah, I suppose you're right there. I will admit that I was the same before >> I got into software development and realised just myself just how hard it is >> to do something. >> I don't know a single person who has never cracked a piece of software or >> copied a music cd and redistributed it, so I always thought, it's only like >> recording a tape. People constantly do it, people constantly burn CD's, >> cracking software's the new way. >> But, like others, I saw sense. I hardly have one piece of cracked software >> on my computer now. Every single game that I enjoy I bought legal licences >> for, as well as Goldwave, GWVoice, DVD Audio Extractor, and various software >> libraries, including registration, encryption and recording systems. >> >> Regards, >> Damien >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day >> >> >>> Hi Liam and all, >>> I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some >>> explanation as to why people are cracking your games. To understand you >>> need to get into the mind of a cracker and software pirate. >>> A few years ago, back in my late teens and early 20's, I use to heavily >>> be into the cracking and software piracy thing before I decided to go >>> clean. Usually what it boiled down to was a self-righteous attitude >>> like, "why should I pay for something if I know where to get it for free?" >>> On one hand I knew steeling was wrong. I would have never walked into a >>> Wal-Mart, Best Buy, or some place like that and stole a music cd, >>> software cd, or dvd movie off the shelf. I saw that as steeling and >>> criminal behavior. >>> On the other hand I saw nothing wrong with copying something. It is hard >>> to explain, but I had a thousand excuses why copying, pirating, was not >>> wrong. So and so was willing to give me a free copy, why pay for it if I >>> can get it for free, it is only a copy not stolen,etc. It never crossed >>> my mind weather I copied that music or software cd or stole it outright >>> from the store someone lost money from my piracy. >>> Bottom line at that time in my life copying or pirating something simply >>> did not bother my conscience. I can remember at college there were a >>> group of us tech types that passed around pirated software like it was >>> candy or bubble gum cards. When one of us got a copy of say MS Office we >>> would zip the cd and put it on Res Net. When Windows 98 came out whoever >>> got a copy burned copies for everyone else, or put it on Res Net for >>> download. We didn't think anything about it. It was just something we did. >>> Around 5 years ago I began attending church, and I started to reexamine >>> not only my life, but the way I viewed things. I concluded after a while >>> that weather I copied software or stole it directly from Best Buy, >>> Wal-Mart, or somewhere else it was still steeling. It took me a long >>> time during my baptismal classes to come to terms with that fact.I also >>> had to figure out why I refused to accept copying software and music was >>> wrong. You want to know why I copied software and music without a >>> conscience? >>> Well, the answer comes down to some very basic human desires. The human >>> heart and mind is greedy. I wanted that software, music, etc but I >>> didn't want to pay for it. If I paid for it that was money I couldn't >>> use for something else I wanted. I wanted everything, but I didn't want >>> to pay for it all. I actually couldn't pay for it all so I decided to >>> steel it, and then sweep it under the mental rug out of view of my >>> conscience. Then, excuse it by saying something like, "copying software >>> isn't like armed robbery." >>> In my own personal experience the only cure for piracy is a conscience. >>> Weather the person is a Christian or not they need to believe that >>> piracy is wrong. They need to recognize there greed, and hold themselves >>> accountable for that greed. They need to let go of their desires for >>> material things, and look for non-material things in life such as love, >>> friendship, happy memories, etc. To value the things in life that are >>> truly worth while, and can bring true joy. >>> Liam, I'd just like to say that the piracy and cracking of your games >>> has nothing to do with what you did or did not do. The people steeling >>> your games are simply selfish, greedy, unsympathetic, and unsatisfied >>> pinheads with no conscience. I sincerely doubt they even know themselves >>> why they are driven to steel, pirate, and copy. 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