ooh, this sounds bad. I'm wondering, I should give them about a month and if I don't hear anything, mom will have to phone the credit card company, but this will be hard. Will update the list on what happens. Surely it can't be hard for them to copy the disks and send them to me, even if they don't work on projects. If, however, they have a site, take orders and don't send the stuff, that's absolutely shameful! I'll also email the support add to see if I get something. Ari

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