Hehehe, well Charles I'm afraid if we gave them our info, i.e. how much
time it took to put in the talking menu system, get talking feedback from
the game etc. then show them our pitiful income from the game, they would
snicker under their breath as they fed our report into the shredder.
The money I made off Rail Racer wouldn't pay Electronic Arts electric bill
for a month I'm sure.
The bottom line is, if we want great games to play, we're just gonna have
to either make them ourselves or support the folks making them by buying
their games, letting others know about them, and stop distributing pirated
copies of the games out there.
We're very fortunate to have the developers we have out there, willing to
do this for the love of it, and not the profit. Because if blind gaming was
all about money, there wouldn't be any blind games out there at all.
Later,
Che
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Rivard" <woofer...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game accessibility
I'm just thinking about this as I type, so here goes, for what it's worth:
What we need, if it would make a difference to the major game
manufacturers, is credence. Letters to these companies from current and
or past developers of games specifically for the blind who can show, by
backing up their claims with records if necessary if they are willing to
include them in the letters, letting these companies know what is
necessary to make games accessible to the blind gamer. We also need
people to verify the size of the potential additional customer base
expansion, and maybe these game companies will consider working on game
modifications. These companies also need to know how important and how
much fun and enjoyment some of the currently blind gamers got from their
products when they could still see enough to play the games. And,
thoughts from blind gamers who have never played these games due to a lack
of eyesight, but who would like to, voiced in a clear and adult manner,
with good grammar, punctuation, and spelling, showing the game
manufacturers that we are not uneducated and that we know what we're
talking about, wouldn't hurt, either.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream game accessibility
Hi Josh,
Sigh...Believe it or not we can't get everything we want simply by making
demands, throwing adult temper tantrums, and acting like spoiled
children. If we did that I can assure you that is exactly how they would
view our immature behavior regarding this issue.
First, of all you are completely ignoring the law. Are you aware that
carrying out a campaign of bombarding their e-mails, phones, mail, etc
can get you charged with harassment? If you make threats or make any kind
of menacing comments to them you can be charged with menacing? Are you
aware if you write a program with the intent to e-mail them daily,
weekly, etc without there consent that is illegal?
My point is if we are to make any progress with these companies at all we
have to above all else act like responsible adults. Acting like a spoiled
child who lost his game privileges and is tossing a temper tantrum isn't
going to make them respect us any. If we want them to respect us we have
to first respect them. Respect is earned not taken by force. If we don't
act responcibly we could find ourselves in court being charged with
something.
As far as taking them to court I don't think you have any idea how much
that would cost. Most of these companies have the financial fortitude to
higher the best legal services in the country. A case like this could go
as far as the supreme court because in a way it is a type of civil rights
case. Cases involving disabilities or racial issues can drag out years in
the courts both sides winning and losing battles until it reaches a level
where someone can make a ruling that is binding. That costs more money
than any of us realistically have.
Josh wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Ok then. why not send them mass emails until they get sick of us and
take them to court over it and sue them. If we are an insect that can be
swatted out of the way, then lets make ourselves look big, huge,
gigantic! lets make a program that sends them emails and does automated
calling to the companies once per week or once per month which reminds
them we will not go away and we will not stand for their rudeness!
Josh
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