Hi tom.
castlevania, ---- and supercastlevania in particular, actually over uses
skeletons a bit, sinse many enemies are skeletons with different attack
patterns, ---- everything from hitting you with swords, having whips of
their own, just jumping at you or throwing axes.
in the Treasury level there are even skeletons made of gold.
It'd be nice to give some other undead an outing too, ---- afterall there's
no shortage to choose from.
As to dracula, ---- well Castlevania NEw generation on the mega drive uses
Elizabeth Bathry (appologies if this is a wonky spelling), the extremely
cruel 15th century countess who finished up being walled up alive as a final
boss, ---- claiming that she's a vampire trying to resurrect and marry
dracula.
As dracula's been around a long time though, there's no reason why this
couldn't be turned around, ---- in fact why not say Dracula was killed by
Van gelda as described in the original novel, ---- but countess Bathry has
recently escaped her prison and is causing havoc.
this could be interesting, both in terms of history and vampire lore, ----
and in terms of a game having an intreaguing vampire boss who was
historically significant, ---- but not Dracula.
beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:34 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Castlevania was Developer Time
Hi Dark,
I too think if we are going to replace the whip with something else it
should be a weapon with some historic value. Not only is it better for the
game's back story, but I think it would help to draw in some actual
vampire lore into the game such as a stake through the heart or wooden
spear. Although other helpful items to find and use would be a torch, holy
water, and a silver cross.
So far we've only talked about Dracula. What about other monsters in the
game?
I think we should include skeletons, dead knights, wolves, and bats as all
of those enemies appear quite regularly in the Castlevania series. Not to
mention Bram Stoker's Dracula mentions Dracula's power over the wolves of
Transylvania.
Now, that I think about it Dracula gets a bit old as a game boss. There is
nothing stopping me from inventing a new boss vampire to base the game
around. Perhaps a vampire queen who was created by Dracula, and replaced
him as lord of the vampires. Er...That's queen of the vampires. <grin>
dark wrote:
Well tom, it is a weapon that's always confused me a litle, ---- hence my
desire for a spear, and even more my desire for a spear with history.
the ability to be upgraded in game isn't limited to whip's though.
following the same castlevania model you could start out with a short
wooden spear, then get a metal spear, then a long metal pike for bigger
range, ---- though you could always play even more with the idea.
suppose for instance, it was a holy spear which could both grow and
extend your reach, and have it's tip transmute into harder and harder
substances depending upon how many of a given power up, ---- like a
crusifix you found.
it could start with Iron, move on to steel, move on to obsidian, silver
(not realistically a good material for spear tips but has magical
associations), obsidian and finally diamond.
there is also a more practical advantage. just like in super Castlevania
you'd need different sounds for each level of whip, ---
because obviously swinging leather and swinging chain sound vastly
different.
A spear however, ---- whatever it's tip was made from and however long
it's shaft, would probably sound pretty similar whatever happened, ----
all you'd need is for Sapi to speak how powered up your spear was as
needed.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward"
<thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Developer time was: My Opinion of Q9
Hi Dark,
Hmmmm....Interesting suggestion. I guess the only question is how much
like true Castlevania do we want to go with this remake. Personally I
don't have a problem giving our hero a spear, stake, or some other
special vampire weapon instead of a whip, but the whip is very classic
Castlevania. Without the whip it would be missing a core element of the
game.
As you pointed out yourself perhaps the best part of the whip is that
you could upgrade it with a more powerful whip until you got the long
chain whip. That was definitely one of the better weapons in the game,
and gave you a lot of attack range and could dispatch monsters quickly.
Although, as we both said killing Dracula with a chain whip is pretty
unrealistic and strange. So using something else might be better story
wise.
dark wrote:
Indeed tom, ---- I have a copy of the stories to both Super castlevania
and original nes castlevania kicking around somewhere.
Sinse however you can't use either the Belmonts, the vampire killer
whip or the castlvania name, ---- why not take the oppertunity to give
your hero a more realistic vampire slaying weapon, ---- My suggestion
would be a biblically significant spear, ---- but there are plenty of
other things you could choose which would imho make more sense than the
whip.
Btw, if I remember rightly the whip's actual material changed with
power ups, it started as lether, then after the player collected five
weapon hearts became chain and correspondingly more powerful, ---- and
after another ten would become a long chain morning star with lots of
reach.
beware the grue!
Dark.
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