Well maybe the dungeon gods just like me! ;D.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
I've had that happen to me quite a few times. I've gotten there without
finding a single scroll period once or twice, much less any of the ones
that work. So in a way my argument does stand.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
----- Original Message -----
From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
As I've said on the entombed list here Bryan, I'm afraid I don't agree on
this point. Now that the drake is more vulnerable to magic from scrolls,
any of a number, ---- including confusion, slow, curse paralize or web
will do, not to mention haste, empowerment, focus or enlightenment for
your party (which all increase damage and accuracy).
I don't think I've ever got to the drake without having one or other of
these, ---- often bought from the general store.
Then, there is always shrink and knock down. In fact, the way I defeated
the drake in 2.41, in possibly one of his nastiest encarnations was
having an ogre brawler who alternated betwene bash, ---- which meant the
drake was spending half his turns standing up, and grapple (which
admittedly is only possible either with an ogre, or with a shrunken
drake).
This worked, ---- allthough I lost all the rest of my party apart from my
pet at the time, ---- and the current drake is a great deal easier than
at that point.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss.
That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the
Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck
than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of
the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't
have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you
could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the
Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with
his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've
noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and
he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck.
Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of
pizza?
Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake.
Hi Dark,
Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that
here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it.
The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever
seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a
sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of
the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and
Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required
to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to
find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding
good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against
the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single
handedly whiped my party out.
So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't
designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty
playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like
to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made
slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't
complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely
so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually
explains something in detail?
One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs
to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look
something up only to get the message that this or that is not
available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to
have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a
skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a
manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and
ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer
too.I should not have to ask the list how to target a body part,
because the so-called documentation doesn't bother to mention it.
Needless to say I'm a bit ticked off that I'm obviously missing a good
portion of information because the documentation absolutely sucks.
<Frown>
On 2/28/10, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Hi Tom.
The important thing to remember about the drake is that he gets fewer
attacks than you do. so, you need to make fewer count. Thus, shrinking
him
with a mage is always a good plan, as are using slow scrolls on him
while
using haste scrolls on yourself. Confusion scrolls also help sinse
he'll be
attacking himself some of the time, as do web and paralize scrolls for
obvious reasons.
Also, with a melee setup like the one you've got, your probably best
off
aiming at the drakes' abdomin or neck, sinse the drake can suffer
manglement
in either place with enough damage.
Lastly, remember that for every technique you use there's a price,
sinse
every technique has a much longer cool down time than normal fight
commands.
Thus, doing a flurry or multishot should be thought about carefully,
particularly if you combine it with something like sneak attack to do
extra
damage.
Lastly, remember the importance of passive skills like duel ield and
(for
certain classes), crytical hits.
I've defeated the drake at level 7 with various party setups, bu have
always
needed to use scrolls etc to tweak the odds.
Hth.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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