Hi Dark, How dare you say that the dungeon gods favor you? Remember--The gods do not find favor with anyone trespassing on their territory. <Grin> Best Regards, Hayden
-----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:28 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. Well maybe the dungeon gods just like me! ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. > I've had that happen to me quite a few times. I've gotten there without > finding a single scroll period once or twice, much less any of the ones > that work. So in a way my argument does stand. > Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of > pizza? > Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. > > >> As I've said on the entombed list here Bryan, I'm afraid I don't agree on >> this point. Now that the drake is more vulnerable to magic from scrolls, >> any of a number, ---- including confusion, slow, curse paralize or web >> will do, not to mention haste, empowerment, focus or enlightenment for >> your party (which all increase damage and accuracy). >> >> I don't think I've ever got to the drake without having one or other of >> these, ---- often bought from the general store. >> >> Then, there is always shrink and knock down. In fact, the way I defeated >> the drake in 2.41, in possibly one of his nastiest encarnations was >> having an ogre brawler who alternated betwene bash, ---- which meant the >> drake was spending half his turns standing up, and grapple (which >> admittedly is only possible either with an ogre, or with a shrunken >> drake). >> >> This worked, ---- allthough I lost all the rest of my party apart from my >> pet at the time, ---- and the current drake is a great deal easier than >> at that point. >> >> Beware the grue! >> >> Dark. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bryan Peterson" <bpeterson2...@cableone.net> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. >> >> >>> Oh no, you can find them in the demo, but it's extremely hit and miss. >>> That sort of thing is why I remain firmly convinced that defeating the >>> Drake at least, even if not the other bosses, is based far more on luck >>> than on skill. There's absolutely no guarantee that you'll find any of >>> the more useful scrolls before you get to the Drake, and if you don't >>> have a Mage to shrink him, which in any case doesn't always work, you >>> could be screwed since there's really no way to protect against the >>> Drake's attacks. It's perfectly possible for him to one-shot you with >>> his physical attacks if he happens to hit your torso or head, which I've >>> noticed he does more often than not. And if you get really unlucky and >>> he's blocking the stairs you're basically out of luck. >>> Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of >>> pizza? >>> Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> >>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:12 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Need help fighting the Drake. >>> >>> >>>> Hi Dark, >>>> Well, one of the problems is I'm not finding any scrolls like that >>>> here. I once found a curse scroll, and a shrink scroll but that is it. >>>> The general store in Twilight Town absolutely sucks. All I've ever >>>> seen there is poor and dubious quality weapons, and now and then a >>>> sspell scroll. Other than that it is basically a useless feature of >>>> the game. I wonder if my problem is that I'm playing the demo and >>>> Jason has intentionally removed certain weapons, scrolls, etc required >>>> to play the game effectively, or Jason is intentionally forcing you to >>>> find this stuff at random. If so I'm not having a lot of luck finding >>>> good equipment and scrolls to use against the Drake, or even against >>>> the Goblin King for that matter. In my last battle he almost single >>>> handedly whiped my party out. >>>> So to be completely honest here while I do like the game it isn't >>>> designed for a new player at all. I'm having extreme difficulty >>>> playing it, and I'm growing extremely frustrated with it. I would like >>>> to see the game be better balanced and some of these enemies made >>>> slightly easier. That's coming from someone who normally doesn't >>>> complain about a game being difficult, but I find Entombed insanely >>>> so. Perhaps someone could write a manual or strat guide that actually >>>> explains something in detail? >>>> One of the reasons I haven't purchased the game is I think Jason needs >>>> to provide some documentation for the game. I keep trying to look >>>> something up only to get the message that this or that is not >>>> available yet. Well, if he wants to sell the game Jason is going to >>>> have to write some detailed documentation or get someone who is a >>>> skilled player to write it. I'm growing sick and tired of not having a >>>> manual for the game. I'm of half a mind to write him personally and >>>> ask him to hurry up and write the manual so I have something to refer >>>> too.I should not have to ask the list how to target a body part, >>>> because the so-called documentation doesn't bother to mention it. >>>> Needless to say I'm a bit ticked off that I'm obviously missing a good >>>> portion of information because the documentation absolutely sucks. >>>> >>>> <Frown> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/28/10, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: >>>>> Hi Tom. >>>>> >>>>> The important thing to remember about the drake is that he gets fewer >>>>> attacks than you do. so, you need to make fewer count. Thus, shrinking >>>>> him >>>>> with a mage is always a good plan, as are using slow scrolls on him >>>>> while >>>>> using haste scrolls on yourself. Confusion scrolls also help sinse >>>>> he'll be >>>>> attacking himself some of the time, as do web and paralize scrolls for >>>>> obvious reasons. >>>>> >>>>> Also, with a melee setup like the one you've got, your probably best >>>>> off >>>>> aiming at the drakes' abdomin or neck, sinse the drake can suffer >>>>> manglement >>>>> in either place with enough damage. >>>>> >>>>> Lastly, remember that for every technique you use there's a price, >>>>> sinse >>>>> every technique has a much longer cool down time than normal fight >>>>> commands. >>>>> Thus, doing a flurry or multishot should be thought about carefully, >>>>> particularly if you combine it with something like sneak attack to do >>>>> extra >>>>> damage. >>>>> >>>>> Lastly, remember the importance of passive skills like duel ield and >>>>> (for >>>>> certain classes), crytical hits. >>>>> >>>>> I've defeated the drake at level 7 with various party setups, bu have >>>>> always >>>>> needed to use scrolls etc to tweak the odds. >>>>> >>>>> Hth. >>>>> >>>>> Beware the Grue! >>>>> >>>>> Dark. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>> list, >>>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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