yeah not to mention the people in say school that think you should not do 
mainstream had go in the disabled units.

>Hi Thomas,
>
>
>Yes but you see that's where I think social integration falls down and it
>fails so many people. It fails us because of the reason you've just
>outlined, it also fails the person in question because they aren't gaining
>anything by being in a mainstream environment. 
>
>I think that mainstream is good when it works but for the retarded lot it
>doesn't work far from it. I came from the specialist education system in
>England which is fading out now. But the amount of people with mental
>disabilities we had at these blind schools really did create a problem
>because whether you like to admit it or not, if you are exposed to them 24
>hours a day 7 days a week, you start to be affected by them. The rules and
>regs of the school become set up in favour of the people with mental
>disabilities and inhibit the natural ability for social and emotional
>development in the rest of the population. Yes social integration fails big
>time if you ask me.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>Behalf Of Thomas Ward
>Sent: 08 March 2010 20:06
>To: Gamers Discussion list
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Help with some ignorant ppl
>
>
>Hi Darren,
>Exactly. I don't know how many times I've been with a bunch of other blind
>class mates and one of them would draw public attention to all of us by
>rocking, poking his/her eyes, picking their nose, or some other socially
>unacceptable way of drawing attention. I really really hate that kind of
>behavior from my own fellow blind peers as they draw precisely the kind of
>negative attention I try to avoid. I like to fit into the croud and not
>stand out like a sore thumb as much as is possible. However, I remember
>there was this one student, where I went to school, who had a mental
>disability as well as being blind. I believe he was mildly retarded.
>Whatever the case is he constantly was the one the mainstream students based
>their opinions of blind people on. He'd walk down the school hallway going,
>"yah, yah, yah, yah," in a monotone that was sure to bring attention to him.
>He pickd his nose, picked wax out of his ears, rocked, poked his eyes, and
>generally was the walking/talking worst example of a blind person you can
>get. Even though this kid was mildly retarted, as i said before, other
>sighted students and even some of the teachers acted as though I was
>mentally disabled as well. I know it wasn't totally this kids fault having
>had a mental disability, I don't think his parents tried to correct his bad
>social behavior, but I resented the negative attention all the same. It is
>that kind of negative example I think of that can really hurt our cause to
>be seen as just another average Joe or Jane who can't read print or see
>colors, but is otherwise normal.
>
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