Yes, I meant final conflict when I was talking about the defiant's cloaking device, sinse the rules for that game are the same in the way you move and attack. there is I believe no way at all to get the first move in original Trek 2000 at all!

eware the grue!

dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "john" <jpcarnemo...@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Great Trek 2000 Battle


Your thinking of the wrong game, the one you discribed with final conflict.

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From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org
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Date sent: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 04:25:35 -0000
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Great Trek 2000 Battle

Hi tom.

that's fairly awsome, actually I've not played the game in a while myself so
probably ought to give it another bash.

My only problem however with the game, and indeed with trek 2000, is that
the enemy always gets the first hit in, sinse the enemy come into range on
your turn but fire on there's, which means that ninety percent of the time
it's better to get around one of your starbases and fire away rather than
use a direct attack in open space, indeed the only ship that can attack an
enemy first is the Defiant with the cloaking device.

This is another reason I'd like to see a trek game with a single ship, sinse
that leaves room for more tactical combat, sinse afterall there were
situations when starfleet had to fire first, such as when combating the
borg.

all the best,

Dark.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com
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Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:32 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Great Trek 2000 Battle


Hi all,

After I posted the Trek 2000 soundpack I decided to install the game,
and play it with the soundpack. Even after all these years of not
playing Trek 2000 I can say I've still got the touch. That is I'm
still a seriously competent Starfleet commander and all around good
guy.

I started up the game on the Bring Them On level expecting myself to
be a bit rusty. I was, but not enough to effect the outcome of the
war.

I Started out by pulling my fleet together so I could hit the enemy as
a single attack fleet. Unfortunately, that didn't quite happen as I
had intended. It so happened that a Tholian starbase was not more than
10 units from Starbase 2 and three Tholians moved in to position to
hit Starbase 2. U.S.S. Enterprise and Yorktown showed up in time to
keep them from destroying the station and we made short work of the
three Tholian creeps who thought they'd kick off the enemy offensive
by taking out a Federation Starbase.

Enterprise took up station near Starbase 2 while Yorktown started
pumping phasers into the Tholian station. As expected two Tholians
broke off their attack to save the Tholian station which was a faint
on my part. Their mistake. I dropped a mine and warped out of range of
their weapons. A move later both Tholian ships and the station were
turned into space dust.

The third Tholian moved in and attacked Enterprise and hit it with a
Tholian web. Enterprise crippled the ship with 4500 units of phaser
energy, and Yorktown finished him off with another 4000 units or so.

Meanwhile Defiant managed to run head long into the main enemy battle
fleet. Three Romulans, a Tholian, and four Klingon ships. Let's just
say Defiant smoked two of the Romulans, but with that kind of odds
Defiant's days were numbered. The other ships moved in and blew
Defiant to pieces.

Fortunately, Valiant wasn't far away and caught the enemy attack fleet
unaware and blew away a Klingon ship, damaged a second, and one of the
Romulan ships took some minor damage from phaser fire. To finish the
job I dropped a mine and ran back to Starbase 1 for resupplies.

Well, after a move or so the mine went off, destroyed the Romulan,
toasted two Klingons, and damaged the fourth Klingon, the fourth
Romulan, and Tholian.  This not only knocked down their forces it gave
Valiant time to reach the Starbase and reload up on energy, photons,
and prepare to meet the battle fleet head on if need be.

Given these odds I dispatched Yorktown to Starbase 1 to back Valiant
up. Unfortunately, it never made it. For reasons unexplained the enemy
fleet didn't chase Valiant to Starbase 1 and chose to intercept
Yorktown as she made her way to Starbase 1. They got in some lucky
shots, and Yorktown died from a well placed ambush. Now, by this time
I'm boiling with a desire for revenge.

I wait on station for the enemy fleet to arrive. Not surprising it was
something of a slaughter. I blew away the last romulan and smoked the
Klingon ship as they came in. I kept my energy levels at maximum
waiting for the final Tholian to fall into my trap. He did.

He trapped Valiant in a web, and knocked her shields down. In return
both Valiant an Starbase 1 opened fire on the Tholian ship.The Tholian
ship blew apart in a spectacular explosion and the war was over.

Oh, I may have been rusty, but I'm still master of the game. In total
it took me 28 moves to grind the enemy fleet down to size and
eliminate all 12 enemy ships and one station. Given a few more moves I
still had enough firepower to smoke some of the other enemy starbases
too. The funny thing is most of the enemies were dispatched and
destroyed by the U.S.S. Valiant. One single ship took out four
Romulans, Four Klingons, and a Tholian ship. Without a doubt that
makes Starfleet the best military fleet in the Alpha Quadrant.

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