If I may chime in on this discussion as it were. Windows 8 does not load, or at least the consumer preview doesn't, on any of the pcs we've tried. But apparently, according to an old friend of mine, its almost like a touch-screen (smartphone) interface has been ported to desktop. Just to give you a heads-up. How good is classic shell anyway? Just to ask what it brings in favour of our predicament.
-----Original Message----- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 11 March 2012 12:46 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Monopoly Hi Dark, Sure. As I said before that is perfectly understandable. However, weather you have a use for Windows 7 or not is really beside the point. The fact is that when you or anyone else buys a new computer you'll get Windows 7 on it and you will have to either roll with the change or remain in the technical dark ages with XP. Its not necessarily pleasant or something you like, but what alternative do you really have? I'll use myself as an example. You know that I use Linux quite a lot instead of Windows. I was very happy with the way accessibility and development was going clear up to Ubuntu 10.04 and the Gnome 2.32 desktop. However, last year things went down hill in my opinion in a hurry. The Gnome developers released the Gnome 3.0 and Gnome 3.2 desktops which broke accessibility in a number of cases, and there were changes I didn't particularly like about the new Gnome desktop. To add to my frustration Ubuntu decided to drop the Gnome desktop in favor of their own desktop, Unity, which was totally different and less accessible than Gnome 2.32. Obviously this situation has me just as reluctant to upgrade to new versions of Ubuntu just like you don't want to upgrade to newer versions of Windows. However, the way I see it is that I don't have much of a choice long term. Ubuntu have what are called long term support releases, LTS, which are only good for two years. So if a person downloads 10.04 LTS in April 2010 the updates, applications, and support for that release will end in April 2012. Sure, a person can continue running it long after that point but there will be no new patches or updates available in software center for that release. If they want patches, updates, and new applications they have to upgrade to the new LTS release Ubuntu 12 which comes out sometime next month, or that person has to manually apply those patches by getting the source, compiling, and installing it themselves. Normally this isn't a problem, but for me I find it very frustrating. I've got Ubuntu 12 beta installed here in a virtual machine, and I have to confess I hate it. the accessibility has taken a nose dive since Ubuntu 10, and there are all kinds of strange bugs that make it less than ideal for me. One bug that we are discussing on the Orca list is the fact when arrowing through a menu Orca announces the underscore character used to identify the hot key for the menu selection. You might be arrowing through Thunderbird's menus and hear something like Prefere underscore nces. Where it correctly identifies the n is the underlined character, but it disrupts the word making it difficult to figure out that its saying Preferences. I'm sure eventually said bug will get fixed, but until it does, as well as other annoying bugs, I have no desire to upgrade to Ubuntu 12. So I understand your reluctance to upgrade to Windows 7 as our situations are similar if not exactly the same. Cheers! On 3/11/2012 7:16 AM, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > well it is true that I didn't know about creating local user > directories for installation like that, however a lot of reluctance > with windows 7 is based on actual experience I've had with the user > interface. > > I for instance like my computer laid out logically with many > directories and folders, and use windows explorer constantly to go and > find the stuff I want, just as if I was picking them off a book shelf. > > For instance I have a folder in the programs menue called audio games, > within which are folders for gma, bsc, blind adrenalin etc. I have > tried the windows 7 search box, but strongly dislike it, sinse I > always prefer looking through the material I have and being able to > review it, and those user interface functions are just plane not! > there on windows 7 sinse microsoft went for a flashy, ridiculous ui > that is hell for a screen reader. I know classic shell will help with > this, but if I'm going to make every effort to turn windows 7 into xp, > ---- what's the point in windows 7 anyway? it's not as if there really > is that much i want to do that requires it, indeed a lot of the things > i do with computers will be blocked by having it. > > That is why, though I may well have to get a windows 7 machine if my > desktop gives up the ghost, I'm not in the least looking forward to it. > > Frankly I wish microsoft had just carried on with a better version of > xp rather than changing the entire interface, layout, architecture and > everything else to something that is far less screen reader friendly. > > Though i have actually heard windows 8 is to have better compatibility > with older programs sinse so many people disliked the way windows 7 > broke this, which is a point in it's favour over 7. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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