Then people will start paying attention to who leads the mission. If someone keeps getting kicked out of a mission led by Jeepers-Creepers, then that person won't go with Jeepers-Creepers anymore. I think that a solution depending on team leader choice would be very appropriate. Frankly, We keep hearing about all these ways to kick someone out once a mission has started. I say why not make that impossible and just allow people to kick before it begins.
If you end up taking a dud, at least you know not to do it again. That makes sense, especially considering that it's hard to tell a person where a crate is without using a language, and it's hard, now, to know what language or channel a person will be using. Let me give an example of how frustratingly inadequate it can seem to try to tell someone you can't talk with directly over chat where something is. In this case, it is a person, not an object, and that person was a character of mine. And this has happened several times with several people. I was on the second floor of the hospital and I broke my leg/twisted my ankle/hatever. My character was limping about in need of healing. I tried requesting a medic and for people to come here and greeting people and all that with the voice prompts of my character. There were no less than four other people on the floor, and three of them were nearby. None of them came to help. None of them, I think, knew the words my character was using in the voice prompts. That's not meant to be insulting to the people, and there are other explanations for why they didn't come to me, but depending on excellent communication on a mission is tricky and not at all reasonable. Frankly, it is an inelegant solution, at best, to have someone find a crate and try to get someone else over there. The biggest problem aside from communication is that it's hard to remember, unless you have only a couple of people on the mission, who has and who has not found a crate. Then you have to keep up with the time elapsed since each person has found their last crate. then there's the problem of escort duty. I've ran several missions in which I assigned people to duties. One of those was escort duty, which was a good idea, since the person looking for crates wasn't a terribly good shot. They did, however, navigate well and could look for crates extremely efficiently. That escort never found a crate, by technicality, since they never picked one up, and they were, frankly, not very good at looking for crates, but they could shoot well, and they played a vital role in the mission. Why, then, should they be punished for that role, simply because they aren't picking up crates. I say that, because of all the difficulties facing anyone who would be using the method you describe, that it is not viable. I still suggest that something be done, and perhaps that something may involve awaiting a time limit of some sort before the team leader can kick a player, but if that time limit is dependent on a player finding a crate, and if crates are so rare, and if there are several players on the mission, the methodology for mission control is going to have to be significantly different. Yes, i understand that this may lead to discrimination by team leaders. I know that this would be unfair, but the frank truth is that discrimination is part of life, and there are plenty of people who might take a person on missions, or they could go alone. If that isn't viable either, then a minimum team requirement could be set in place for certain missions. This would mean that people couldn't go certain missions alone and would have to take people, and it would seem to level the playing field a bit. This message has been long, so I hope it goes through. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 7/21/12, Steady Goh <stea...@gmail.com> wrote: > If a player in a team is trying and cannot find crates, others can always > tell him where it is and let him go collect it. That way that player can > also learn. > I am not sure what is the problem about collecting crates too fast. If you > can end the mission in less than 10 minutes, no 1 gets kick out. If you > decide that others are not contributing and they should not share your rep > and exp, wait for their time limit. I think this way every1 has a fair play > ground. > As for kicking players, we can forsee some of them doing that just because > they doesn't like that person to be in no matter how much he contribute. If > you look at the chat, it's obvious that many there are very bias towards > certain groups. Say if a truck sitter leads a mission and a searcher joins, > the searcher turn in most of the crates and get kick out just before the > last crate. > > 锦发/Steady Goh > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Kaldobsky" <jer...@kaldobsky.com> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] swamp trucksitting > > >> This idea was considered a while back, but we had the problem of players >> legitimately being unable to find crates in large teams. I don't believe >> the idea ever got past the talking stage though, and I'd gladly give it a >> try if people think it's worth testing. >> >>> Hi Jeremy and other swamp players, A >>> suggestion to deal with truck sitters. How about making it >>> something like the lms mission where the player's mission >>> time count down? Start off with 10 minutes. That should be >>> more than enough to find at least 1 crate in any warehouse >>> mission. Each crate found adds 3 minutes to the clock with >>> no cap. Then all we have to do is to wait for them to run >>> out of time. And no, killing zombies doesn't add on time. we >>> don't need players who just keep shooting and saying they >>> are providing cover for others. 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