I was talking to Matt last night and he mentioned that one of the reasons why the libraries are shipped is because we sometimes want to build gmond statically - I suppose this is still possible even if we split out the libs?
I'd like to add the following point for 3.1: - gexec compatability (will add more points as I come to think of them). BTW, does anybody want to sign up to work on the library splitting? I could potentially work on it, but I'm sure someone who is more familiar with the system can do it in a fraction of the time I'll need to do it :) Thanks, Bernard -----Original Message----- From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 17/08/2006 09:40 To: Bernard Li; Jarod Wilson; Marcus Rueckert Cc: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net; Adeyemi Adesanya Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse asshipped with ganglia Bernard, seems after all the noise the decision is to split off the externals. Your idea to push a last self-sufficient release is a good one. I will do a 3.0.4-pre over the weekend. Not going to start with the 3.0.3.y madness :-) Maybe we should name the split out version 3.1.x. Topics from my side for 3.1 would be: - host spoofing, if Yemi can provide me with a patch-in-a-file - cleaned up build system - split off external libraries - new AIX metrics code - ..... Cheers Martin Cheers Martin --- Bernard Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Martin: > > I guess my take on this is, using the distribution's libraries is the > "right" way to go, then let's make this change now and reap the > rewards later when all the distributions ship the correct versions of > the libraries. > > Also, I think we have sufficient connections with the various Linux > distributions to have the missing libraries added or at least > requested. > > P.S. If you are concerned about the impact on the next release, > perhaps we can release what we have now as 3.0.4 (or 3.0.3.1 for that > matter), and then we'll all work towards this library cleanup until > we are ready for another official release. > > Cheers, > > Bernard > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 15:52 > To: Bernard Li; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jarod Wilson > Cc: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse asshipped with > ganglia > > Bernard, > > I am not saying: drop the idea. I am just asking: what do we win if, > with the exception of expat, none of the external packages is widely > available in the "right" version? Is it worth the effort? > > Cheers > Martin > > --- Bernard Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Martin: > > > > I'll let others respond to the thread, but I'd just like to point > out > > that there is a fallback - the libs tarball which will include the > > currently shipped libraries in our tree. So we just need to add > some > > intelligence into our configure/build system to auto-detect this... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bernard > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Knoblauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 15:30 > > To: Bernard Li; Jarod Wilson > > Cc: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse asshipped > with > > ganglia > > > > Folks, > > > > this is certainly not what I wanted to kick off ... If we go that > > way, > > what about: > > > > RHEL4/5 > > CentOs > > SLES > > FC5 > > Ubuntu > > ??? > > > > > > and the Mandriva stuff is completely outdated. > > > > I am just wondering whether splitting of apr/expat/libconfuse is > > really a good thing. > > > > Looking a bit broader at www.rpmfind.net: > > > > apr/apr-devel: varies from 0.9.4 to 0.9.6 for RedHat and Mdk. No > > SuSE. > > In 3.0.3 we moved from 0.9.5 to 0.9.7, because that fixed bz #87. > Is > > 0.9.6 enough? I don't know and I do not really want to test it. So > > that > > means we require 0.9.7 which is not available anywhere out of the > > box. > > > > expat/expat-devel: varies from 1.95.1 to 1.95.8 for a lot of > distros. > > Seems we can safely assume its availability everywhere. > > > > libconfuse: old version for MDK and now 2.5 for FC4 :-) Not a very > > wide > > coverage. > > > > Hmm. Not really convinced. > > > > Cheers > > Martin > > > > --- Bernard Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Jarod: > > > > > > Great - let's hope it gets accepted soon :-) > > > > > > Marcus, is there a RPM for SUSE? > > > > > > Stu, how about for Debian...? > > > > > > I believe it was mentioned that there is already one for > > Mandriva... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bernard > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jarod Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 10:56 > > > To: Bernard Li > > > Cc: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: RE: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse asshipped > > with > > > ganglia > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:43 -0700, Bernard Li wrote: > > > > Says 404 for me... > > > > > > Bah, what the heck, who broke the redirectors... Okay, full link, > > > this > > > works, I promise: > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=202820 > > > > > > > > > > BTW, I don't suppose there'll be any chance for it to get into > > > > RHEL5...? > > > > > > Highly unlikely at this point in the game, barring it being > > requested > > > by > > > a (probably major) customer... > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on > behalf > > of > > > > Jarod Wilson > > > > Sent: Wed 16/08/2006 09:28 > > > > To: ganglia-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Ganglia-developers] apr, expat, confuse as > shipped > > > > with ganglia > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 10:16 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: > > > > > I can see about packaging the latest libconfuse for Fedora. > > > However, > > > > > without a special exception, it won't be built for FC4, as > FC4 > > > has > > > > > entered 'maintenance mode' (meaning generally nothing new > gets > > > > built, > > > > > only fixes for existing packages allowed). > > > > > > > > > > [...time passes...] > > > > > > > > > > Almost there with a package that I think will pass Fedora > > Extras > > > > > muster... > > > > > > > > Just submitted it for Fedora Extras review: > > > > > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/202820/ > > > > > > -- > > > Jarod Wilson > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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