On 2006-01-19, Peter Seibel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Does this make sense?  At the moment the Swank backend is in CL and
>> really quite dumb, just talking over a socket to Slime.  Slime is
>> the smarts, and also the editor interface.  If we move the smart
>> parts of Slime to reside on the backend, and change the editor
>> interface to Netbeans then we are more or less done.  I don't know
>> if this is a reasonable idea yet, but if it is then maybe we should
>> ask the Slime guys what they think.  Emacs also supports Netbeans,
>> assuming no loss of functionality, Slime could possibly support Vim
>> and Emacs via Netbeans.
>
> Three points:
>
>   1) Do you guys want me to set up a project mailing list. Probably
>   not all 350+ gardeners need this level of detail about this
>   project.

Yes, please.

>   2) Keep in mind, as you approach the SLIME guys, that they may or  
> may not by inherently sympathetic to your cause. In generally
> they're  a great bunch of guys and are happy to accept patches that
> demonstrate taste and good judgement. But they can get cranky if
> folks show up asking for them to make a lot of changes in order to
> support something that is off the main goal of the SLIME project.

Agree.

>   3) When are you guys going to propose this as an official project.  

When I have enough code so you can build a rudimentary REPL in Perl:

  use slimpl;
  my $slimpl = slimpl->new( "localhost", 4005 );
  while (1) {
    print $slimpl->current_package(), "> ";
    $input = <>;
    print $slimpl->eval_wait( $input ), "\n";
  }

The function names may change, but you get the idea.

ESR says one of the keys to a successful open source project is to
have something that works, at least a little bit, before you release
anything.[1]  I think the above is the least I'd want to have ready
before I released it out into the wild.  (Note to interested
bystanders: the first release will not include debugger support.)

> (Though, speaking as a Green Thumb, I'd want to know how folks can
> get a hold of the code that exists so far so they can poke around
> with it themselves.)

When I have enough for the above, I'll (to start with) post it at
theclapp.org as a plain old tarball.  Later I'll probably set up cvs
there, or even inquire at common-lisp.net.

-- Larry

[1]  I think.  I read CatB quite a few years ago.


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