On Jan 25, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Luís Oliveira wrote:

> Carl Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Yes, you need a recent release of Allegro Common Lisp to run Kiwi.
>> Kiwi uses various Allegro specific features including: its DEFSYSTEM,
>> its MySQL interface, its REGEXP package, the current version of
>> Allegro Serve, and a bunch of symbols from the EXCL package which do
>> random things we needed to formatting time strings.  The MySQL
>> interface was notably missing from the trial edition, perhaps this  
>> has
>> changed.
>
> This makes me wonder. Wouldn't cliki.net be better? I think it just
> needs a cleaner layout (more horizontal space!), a better organized
> front page and someone to maintain the code (I recall someone  
> somewhere
> volunteering to do this, not sure what happened about that).

Do you mean cliki.net the site or the Cliki software? Because the  
site is devoted to Open source and free Lisp which seems a bit  
limited for our purposes. Also, from a community building point of  
view, it seems a feature to me that the ALU Wiki was so unused until  
we showed up--there's little chance that we'll be stepping on  
anyone's toes no matter what we do with this Wiki. While the Cliki  
(the site) has some folks who use it and probably like it the way it  
is. No need to antagonize them right off the bat by coming in with a  
lot of suggestions for changes.

As far as the software goes, I haven't looked yet at either the Kiwi  
code or the originial Cliki code. In theory Kiwi is supposed to be a  
cleanup and improvement of the Cliki code. If that's true I'd be  
inclined to start my hacking efforts there. Of course I have ready  
access to an Allegro environment to that part doesn't cause me any  
problems.

So given that I think the Gardeners should continue to use the ALU  
Wiki, and that the ALU Wiki runs on Kiwi, and that we now have the  
source to Kiwi to hack on if we wish, I'm inclined to try and make  
whatever changes we need to Kiwi and see if we can get them deployed  
back to the ALU Wiki. But if other folks think there's something for  
gardeners to do relative to Cliki the site or Cliki the software,  
they should feel free to propose it.

-Peter

-- 
Peter Seibel           * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gigamonkeys Consulting * http://www.gigamonkeys.com/
Practical Common Lisp  * http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/


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