On Setting Orange, The Aftermath 53, 3172 YOLD, Gary King wrote: > The goal of including the batteries with Lisp is a very good one, and > perennial. Cf. Peter Seibel's Lispbox, Edi Weitz's (I forget what it > is called), packages like CL-Utilities, Drew Crampsie's and Marco > Baringer's project (again, the name escapes me) and my own extremely > moribund Enterprise Lisp.
I won't say for OP, but I wasn't thinking about Yet Another Lisp+batteries Project. Rather about separate batteries package (or, actually, meta-package). Might require ASDF and probably ADSF-Install, or might be based on something like http://japhy.fnord.org/LocalAsdfInstall and requiring only (load "path/to/load.lisp") to have battery pack at your fingertips ;) > The real problem, I think, is not the software, it's the community. > Lisp has a great community (though some would disagree). However, > CLers seem more likely to build their own batteries (or cold fusion > nuclear power plants!) than look for existing ones whereas other > languages (e.g., Python, Ruby, etc) seem to promote a garden more > easily. IMHO, the desire for a garden and for batteries is there but > the mechanism hasn't appeared yet. I see this as starting contents for ASDF+ASDF-install's site/ and systems/ dir, that would make a framework for further tinkering, installing more libraries, upgrading, making snapshot of current state (think `my own batteries' tarball that would be CL-Batteries add-on with libraries I use), etc., etc. This way, it won't be useful only as side wheels for newbies ;) -- __ Maciek Pasternacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ http://japhy.fnord.org/ ] `| _ |_\ / { ...to keep from dying is not the same as ``to live''. } ,|{-}|}| }\/ \/ |____/ ( Frank Herbert ) -><- _______________________________________________ Gardeners mailing list [email protected] http://www.lispniks.com/mailman/listinfo/gardeners
