On 11/12/06, Maciek Pasternacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Setting Orange, The Aftermath 53, 3172 YOLD, Gary King wrote: > > > The goal of including the batteries with Lisp is a very good one, and > > perennial. Cf. Peter Seibel's Lispbox, Edi Weitz's (I forget what it > > is called), packages like CL-Utilities, Drew Crampsie's and Marco > > Baringer's project (again, the name escapes me) and my own extremely > > moribund Enterprise Lisp. > > I won't say for OP, but I wasn't thinking about Yet Another > Lisp+batteries Project. Rather about separate batteries package (or, > actually, meta-package). Might require ASDF and probably > ADSF-Install, or might be based on something like > http://japhy.fnord.org/LocalAsdfInstall and requiring only (load > "path/to/load.lisp") to have battery pack at your fingertips ;) > > > The real problem, I think, is not the software, it's the community. > > Lisp has a great community (though some would disagree). However, > > CLers seem more likely to build their own batteries (or cold fusion > > nuclear power plants!) than look for existing ones whereas other > > languages (e.g., Python, Ruby, etc) seem to promote a garden more > > easily. IMHO, the desire for a garden and for batteries is there but > > the mechanism hasn't appeared yet. > > I see this as starting contents for ASDF+ASDF-install's site/ and > systems/ dir, that would make a framework for further tinkering, > installing more libraries, upgrading, making snapshot of current state > (think `my own batteries' tarball that would be CL-Batteries add-on > with libraries I use), etc., etc. This way, it won't be useful only > as side wheels for newbies ;) > Maciek, You have managed in your three posts to describe almost exactly how I see CL-Batteries - a metapackage that automatically installs loads of useful CL packages, and has enough documentation and examples to get you up to speed quickly with the basics. Unfortunately I chose the most inopportune time to post my initial thoughts - I am moving to Canada (400 miles) in the next two or three days, which will somewhat tie me up :) Also, I never wanted to champion this project - just post my thoughts and help out. Anybody want to step up as the leader?
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