I believe this would be a good application for the reformer that I'm working 
on, since it's primary purpose is to use the water laden "smoke" and combine 
with C for CO and H maximization.  
 
Toby Seiler
Seiler Technical   


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Today's Topics:

  1. Charcoal conversion efficiencies (David Coote)
  2. Re: Charcoal conversion efficiencies (Tom)
  3. Re: Charcoal conversion efficiencies (Jeff Davis)
Thanks, Tom. Certainly an easy technique to set up. The smoke produced 
might make this is a difficult technique to use in any quantity near 
towns in Australia.

On this topic, can anyone point me at a good reference on charcoal 
making that covers for a range of approaches parameters like cost, 
conversion efficiency and characteristics of charcoal produced?

Thanks

David

> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. CHARCOAL PYROPILE (Thomas Reed)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:41:01 -0500
> From: Thomas Reed<[email protected]>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>     <[email protected]>
> Cc: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>     <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Gasification] CHARCOAL PYROPILE
> Message-ID:<[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear Anand and All:
>
> Depending on the type of charcoal needed, you don't need a kiln at all.  the 
> biomass should have a moisture content less than 20% and cut into small 
> enough pieces so you can make a reasonably dense pile.  (If you have a pile 
> of slash, resulting from cutting a tree down, our brush saw attachment for 
> chain saws will cut limbs up to 2-1/2" in diameter as small as you want the 
> charcoal pieces).
>
> If you make a pyramid of scrap biomass (sticks, twigs, chips, pellets, cobs, 
> ...) and light it ON TOP, the cellulose will form a combustible gas, leaving 
> about 20% charcoal from the lignin.  The top layer of charcoal will ignite 
> the next layer, and each layer. Until allis converted to charcoal, the rising 
> deoxygenated gases protecting the charcoal layers above.
>
> If you put wet newspaper under the pile, when the last layer is converted, 
> the rising steam will quench the pile of charcoal. I call this a CHARCOAL 
> PYROPILE.
>
> Depending on the moisture content of the biomass pile, the temperature of the 
> charcoal will reach 500-700C.  I believe HughMcLaughlin said it was partially 
> activated, but I hope he'll comment.
>
> I hope that farmers in particular will develop this method for converting 
> waste biomass to valuable charcoal fertilizer.
>
> So no kiln needed.
>
> Tom Reed
>
>
>
>
>
> Thomas B Reed
>
>
>    



Dear David

Of the biomass pyramid is relatively dry, lighting on top produces a short 
yellow flame and very liitle smoke unlee the wind is blowing. 

Take some pics and post them. 

Tom Reed

>From Tom Reed

AKA

Dr Thomas B Reed
508 353 7841
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On Feb 22, 2012, at 6:19 PM, David Coote <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Tom. Certainly an easy technique to set up. The smoke produced might 
> make this is a difficult technique to use in any quantity near towns in 
> Australia.
> 
> On this topic, can anyone point me at a good reference on charcoal making 
> that covers for a range of approaches parameters like cost, conversion 
> efficiency and characteristics of charcoal produced?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David
> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1. CHARCOAL PYROPILE (Thomas Reed)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:41:01 -0500
>> From: Thomas Reed<[email protected]>
>> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>>    <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>>    <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Gasification] CHARCOAL PYROPILE
>> Message-ID:<[email protected]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Dear Anand and All:
>> 
>> Depending on the type of charcoal needed, you don't need a kiln at all.  the 
>> biomass should have a moisture content less than 20% and cut into small 
>> enough pieces so you can make a reasonably dense pile.  (If you have a pile 
>> of slash, resulting from cutting a tree down, our brush saw attachment for 
>> chain saws will cut limbs up to 2-1/2" in diameter as small as you want the 
>> charcoal pieces).
>> 
>> If you make a pyramid of scrap biomass (sticks, twigs, chips, pellets, cobs, 
>> ...) and light it ON TOP, the cellulose will form a combustible gas, leaving 
>> about 20% charcoal from the lignin.  The top layer of charcoal will ignite 
>> the next layer, and each layer. Until allis converted to charcoal, the 
>> rising deoxygenated gases protecting the charcoal layers above.
>> 
>> If you put wet newspaper under the pile, when the last layer is converted, 
>> the rising steam will quench the pile of charcoal. I call this a CHARCOAL 
>> PYROPILE.
>> 
>> Depending on the moisture content of the biomass pile, the temperature of 
>> the charcoal will reach 500-700C.  I believe HughMcLaughlin said it was 
>> partially activated, but I hope he'll comment.
>> 
>> I hope that farmers in particular will develop this method for converting 
>> waste biomass to valuable charcoal fertilizer.
>> 
>> So no kiln needed.
>> 
>> Tom Reed
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thomas B Reed
>> 
>> 
>>  
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On Thu, 2012-02-23 at 10:19 +1100, David Coote wrote:
> On this topic, can anyone point me at a good reference on charcoal 
> making that covers for a range of approaches parameters like cost, 
> conversion efficiency and characteristics of charcoal produced?


David,:

COMPARING SIMPLE CHARCOAL PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGIES
FOR THE CARIBBEAN
<http://www.cd3wd.com/cd3wd_40/vita/charcprd/en/charcprd.htm>

Simple technologies for charcoal making
<http://www.fao.org/docrep/x5328e/x5328e00.htm>

Industrial charcoal making
<http://www.fao.org/docrep/x5555e/x5555e00.htm#Contents>


You might need one of these:

Mini Skyline
<http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/deaton0601.html>






Jeff




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