Peter, I am absolutely thrilled to see that you
are commercialising your brillant gasifier at last !
David Murphy.
On 19/03/2014 2:10 PM, Peter Davies wrote:
Hi Doug,
Sorry if the slowness of my own response makes
the conversation a bit disjointed but I have
other priorities taking up my time. To be clear
our system produces both engine grade gas at the
top end of the heating value range for naturally
aspirated down draft gasifiers AND concurrently
a useful high quality char output, there is no
"perhaps" about it. The systems gas outputs were
independently collected and tested on several
occasions and I have provided you with copies of
lab certificates as courtesy in the past. I
respect the right of others to doubt, and
understand your own commercial interests here,
but I only make comment where I feel it can add
some value and to encourage others to question
old narrow system specific wisdom's and explore
for themselves.
In regard your suggestion of a conflict with
some other person you don't publicly name you
overstep considerably in any understanding of my
circumstances, nor do I appreciate attempts at
lumping me in with the same behavior I abhor.
Raising such red herrings in the middle of a
discussion has no place and only detracts from it.
In regard "cheap" words this is why we spent
considerable time and money traveling systems
7500km to successful public demonstrations since
2009 including one on the lawns of Parliament
House Canberra, not a venue for the feint
hearted or place for a system that did not work.
Running a small second hand 16hp twin cylinder
engine on the gas whilst operating a concurrent
smokeless flare and producing charcoal, all with
a gasifier tied on a trailer that only had crude
gas cooling and no filtering! A notable comment
from one of the pollies present at the time (now
the Federal Minister for Industry) was that
"...you are a brave man, running a old Briggs
Stratton engine in preference to a new reliable
Honda!" I am sure yourself and many far less
honorable would wish for us to reveal intimate
details of our designs, however I cannot be
goaded into it. There are many on this list who
have genuine and commercial gasification
technologies who do not always contribute to
discussions and certainly don't share
proprietary information.
As for due diligence we expect and encourage it
always and in our own case are commercialising
our systems in the first instance through
leasing or JV arrangements where we take the
financial risk, no performance no pay. As this
is being done through our own resources, not
sucking in mug investors or otherwise ripping
people off it is necessarily a task requiring
patience, but we now have >1.2MWe worth of
systems being prepared right now, the first of
which have successfully gone through
commissioning testing (including cold starts on
dry wood chip) and will now be deployed over the
coming weeks into a range of commercial
settings. It is not important to us whether
commentators on this or any other list believe
it to be true.
I respect your knowledge Doug, in the past it
has given me insights that when working with our
own designs have led to break through in
understanding and ultimately a different way of
doing things that has substantially improved
performance at every level. I don't pretend to
know everything about gasification, but my own
experience over 30 years is that I don't know
anyone who does. This is what makes the journey
of discovery exciting and if our own success has
taught us anything it is that there is much more
yet to learn, and other people sharing their
failures does indeed help with this. Happily
gasification wins are coming.
Kind regards,
Peter
On 3/16/2014 3:37 PM, Doug wrote:
Hi Peter and Colleagues.
Sorry for the delay in this reply:
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