Dear Art, thanks for the appreciation of our work. Yours A.D.Karve On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Art Krenzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Dr. Karve, > > I think you have the "People's Answer"- distributed energy made from > recycled organic materials. Your work is very important to many people > around the world. I salute you and your work. > > Art > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 23:26:08 +0530 > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Tennessee company - pyrolysis biochar + >> hydrogen ($1.75 per gallon diesel-equivalent?) >> >> Dear Art, >> yes I agree with you, that using methane from natural gas would make >> the process simpler and cheaper than using coal. Besides, using coal >> would also involve getting rid of ash. Perhaps, one can produce >> enough methane from agricultural and urban waste, which would make it >> a carbon neutral process. >> Yours >> A.D.Karve >> >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Art Krenzel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Dr. Karve, >> > >> > Being able to technically generate hydrogen using incandescent carbon in >> > a >> > water gas reaction does not make the process economically competitive. >> > Typically, the use of incandescent carbon is a batch, cyclic process >> > which >> > produces pulses of gases which vary in purity over each cycle >> > >> > Compare the economics of using a batch feedstock which has a variable >> > composition to one which has a very pure, low cost feedstock (CH4) day >> > in >> > and day out. As a process designer, you can readily see that even >> > through >> > the chemistry works out to generate hydrogen using incandescent carbon, >> > the >> > day to day practicality of operating a multistage process with such a >> > variable feedstock is much more difficult and more expensive. >> > >> > Art >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 06:34:07 +0530 >> >> From: [email protected] >> >> To: [email protected] >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Tennessee company - pyrolysis biochar + >> >> hydrogen ($1.75 per gallon diesel-equivalent?) >> >> >> >> Dear Art, >> >> I am not a chemist but I feel that we can also separate the hydrogen >> >> from water gas. India is the world's third largest producer of >> >> chemical fertilizers and I am quite sure that the Indian fertilizer >> >> producers also use natural gas as their source of hydrogen. India >> >> generates annually about 800 million tonnes of agricultural waste, >> >> which can serve as the source to produce charcoal. This charcoal would >> >> have the same amount of energy as all the petroleum that we import. >> >> We have developed charring kilns for charring light biomass into a >> >> powdery charcoal. currently we briquette it and use it as domestic >> >> fuel. We have also made water gas from our char and demonstrated its >> >> use as fuel. >> >> Yours >> >> A.D.Karve >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Greg Manning <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Art >> >> > >> >> > Thank you for the explanation, >> >> > >> >> > I knew they used natural gas, but had no idea of the process. >> >> > >> >> > Greg Manning >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Art Krenzel <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Dr. Karve, >> >> >> >> >> >> The Haber Bosch Process is used to convert hydrogen from natural gas >> >> >> and >> >> >> nitrogen from air into ammonia. Yes, it is an energy intensive >> >> >> process. >> >> >> >> >> >> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process >> >> >> >> >> >> This conversion is typically conducted at 15-25 MPa (2,200-3,600 >> >> >> psi) >> >> >> or >> >> >> 150-250 bar and between 300-550 °C (572-1,022 °F), as the gases are >> >> >> passed >> >> >> over four beds of catalyst, with cooling between each pass so as to >> >> >> maintain >> >> >> a reasonable equilibrium constant. On each pass only about 15% >> >> >> conversion >> >> >> occurs, but any unreacted gases are recycled, and eventually an >> >> >> overall >> >> >> conversion of 97% is achieved.[1] >> >> >> >> >> >> Art Krenzel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:29:51 +0530 >> >> >> > From: [email protected] >> >> >> > To: [email protected]; >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] Tennessee company - pyrolysis biochar >> >> >> > + >> >> >> > hydrogen ($1.75 per gallon diesel-equivalent?) >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Dear Greg, >> >> >> > the major component of natural gas is methane. How does the >> >> >> > fertilizer >> >> >> > industry separate out hydrogen from methane? The process must be >> >> >> > consuming a lot of energy. >> >> >> > Yours >> >> >> > A.D.Karve >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Anand Karve <[email protected]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> > > Dear List, >> >> >> > > Already in the first decade of the last century, Haber in >> >> >> > > Germany >> >> >> > > developed a process for making ammonia by combining nitrogen in >> >> >> > > the >> >> >> > > air with hydrogen. I was told that this process is used even >> >> >> > > today >> >> >> > > by >> >> >> > > fertilizer manufacturers. Where does the fertilizer industry get >> >> >> > > its >> >> >> > > hydrogen from? >> >> >> > > Yours >> >> >> > > A.D.Karve >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, John Bonitz >> >> >> > > [email protected] >> >> >> > > [biochar-policy] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Return of the Pyromaniax: Proton Power and its hydrous >> >> >> > >> pyrolysis >> >> >> > >> process for >> >> >> > >> super low-cost hydrogen, by Jim Lane, May 8, 2014 >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> http://www.biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/2014/05/08/return-of-the-pyromaniax-proton-power-and-its-hydrous-pyrolysis-process-for-super-low-cost-hydrogen/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> John Bonitz >> >> >> > >> Pittsboro, NC >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> 919-360-2492 | LinkedIn >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > >> Gasification mailing list >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> >> >> > >> [email protected] >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: >> >> >> > >> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > -- >> >> >> > > *** >> >> >> > > Dr. A.D. 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