I wonder if Meyer suspended Spikes because of either pressure from the 
conference or public perceptions, or if he really believes it is appropriate.

If he did it because of concerns about public perceptions, then what happens to 
his message about sticking together and not allowing elements outside the 
program to influence your behavior?

The more I think about it, the more PO'd I get.  Brandon could be in the NFL, 
sitting on millions of dollars.  He might be thinking "who needs this nonsense" 
right now.

And still we wait for the Georgia suspensions.  We shouldn't hold our breath.  
Richt, a scUM and F$U product, is probably laughing at what is going on in 
Gainesville now.  

Two other points:

1) This is starting to remind me of the 1998 or 2000 F$U game, when F$U 
deliberately instigated a fight before the game, with the intention of getting 
certain Gators ejected.  It worked, and Tony George was thrown out before the 
opening kickoff.

The dirty play on Georgia's side was too frequent not to have beeen part of 
their game plan.  And that had to be the coaches' intent.  It does not happen 
by accident.  Some penalties can be blamed on the lack of discipline.  Others 
were deliberate and too frequent not to have been part of the plan.  I'd say 
they also targeted Spikes and Tebow, based on the eye-poking and the play where 
a defender flattened Tim away from the ball and long after he had handed off.

2) To those who say two wrongs don't make a right, I'd say I agree, but . . . . 

If the referees aren't doing their job, what should you do?  Continue to be 
abused?  This is not what these guys are trained to do.  

Would any of us have had a problem with someone taking out Darnell Dockett for 
deliberately injuring Ernest Graham?  I would have applauded it.

The players are the ones out there risking themselves.  Sometimes you just have 
to do what is necessary to protect yourself.

This whole thing is a damn shame, especially because we get the bad rap, when 
it was Georgia which instigated the whole thing.

I hope this doesn't hurt the team, and I wish there were a way for us to show 
our support for Spikes, without being divisive.

Go Gators!!!!

Ken B. (NYC Gator)


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-----Original Message-----
From: "Gatornet Admin" <gator...@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:49:12 
To: <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half
 gamefor eye  gouge [Barlis]

I'm embroiled in a nasty debate over this on Facebook, and it's getting more 
frustrating all the time. I'm defending Spikes against a USC(west) fan, a 
Tennessee fan, a couple of Georgia fans, and even a "so-called" Florida fan who 
says she is embarrassed by his actions. That question (why hasn't UGA 
reprimanded any of their players?) even came up there. I'm getting so mad about 
the one-sidedness (is that a word?) of this subject, I can't hardly keep my 
cool. 

Randy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ken...@earthlink.net 
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  Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 11:58 PM
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
gamefor eye gouge [Barlis]


  This is infuriating.

  Where are the suspensions on the Georgia side? Until we see something from 
them, I wouldn't have suspended Spikes. Why is he the only one to be punished, 
especially since he didn't initiate the dirty play? 

  To hell with this. As I wrote this afternoon, I hope it does not cause any 
dissension or other problems on the team. If I had been out on that field, I 
would be asking why my coach isn't standing up for his players.


  Go Gators!!!!

  Ken B. (NYC Gator)

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  From: "Darlene Goodfellow" <goodfell...@earthlink.net> 
  Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:29:50 -0500
  To: <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
  Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half game 
for eye gouge [Barlis]


  Yeah, but for some perspective, one of the regular posters at the Virtual 
Swamp works in the athletic department office and here is what she had to say 
today about, as she called him, The Gouger:

        "Ok, I gotta weigh in. Just saw The Gouger downstairs and HIS eye is" 
         


        bloodshot and puffy. He also lost a chunk of hair and got punched in 
the face at least twice. Lots of throat punching went on as well.  



        Half the team is banged up from extra curricular activity in the pile. 

        The SEC refs did a poor job of managing this game and Brandon (or the 
rest of the team) should never have had to put up with this much abuse before 
taking matters into his own hands. Again, I'm not condoning the behavior and 
I'm satisfied with the way the athletic department and Spikes have responded 
but it's ridiculous to think that Brandon's actions weren't provoked. 



       

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Helen Huntley 
    To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com 
    Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:55 PM
    Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators suspend Spikes a half 
game for eye gouge [Barlis]


    Lots of dirty things go on in those piles, and Spikes obviously was upset 
about what happened to him. However, 
    I think Spikes and the Gators are very fortunate that the Georgia player 
(apparently) wasn't injured. Can you imagine the outrage if the situation were 
reversed and that was a Georgia player trying to poke Tebow in the eye--and 
Tebow was actually injured as a result?   











    On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Shane Ford <go.ufgator...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Gators suspend Spikes a half game for eye gouge
       

      Brian W. Kratzer/The Gainesville Sun 

      Buy photo 

      Brandon Spikes digs his hand inside a Georgia helmet during the third 
quarter of the Florida-Georga game at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Saturday 
Oct. 31, 2009.


      By Jeff Barlis
      Gainesville SUN Staff writer

      Published: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 
      Last Modified: Monday, November 2, 2009 at 12:27 p.m. 





      Florida linebacker Brandon Spikes was suspended for gouging the eye of 
Georgia tailback Waushaun Ealey on Saturday in Jacksonville. Coach Urban Meyer 
on Monday announced the suspension, for the first half of Saturday's game 
against Vanderbilt.

      "I don't condone (what Spikes did)," Meyer said at his weekly news 
conference. "There's no place on the field for that. We're going to suspend him 
for the first half of the Vanderbilt game. That's not him. But we love Brandon 
Spikes and the team is going to support him.

      "It's hard. I just spoke with him not too long ago. We're Florida and we 
expect certain things. ... I did speak to the (SEC) commissioner.

      "I wanted to move on and then I saw it and said, 'That's not right.' "

      The video evidence shows Spikes gouges the eye of Ealey. The incident can 
be seen here on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cISxU8Crulw









    




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