D-I-T-T-O. A. Leon Polhill, Gator "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." - Mark Twain
________________________________ From: "ala...@gatorzone.com" <ala...@gatorzone.com> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 1:11:36 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity I am going to try my best to not hurt anyone's feelings here... I think I am the "someone who rarely posts" who "fired off the entitlement email." It is true that I rarely post, but I have been part of this group going back to the Prodigy days on my Commodore 64. There have been times when I have not posted for years at a time, but usually because gatorzone.com would block emails I sent from whatever email system I was on at the time. Fortunately, or maybe unfortunately depending on your perspective, I am currently able to send emails to the list and will start posting occasionally again. My original email that seems to have kicked off a "sordid affair" that "mushroomed" was actually about "my opinion" that there is an attitude difference between us older generation gator fans and gator fans who have come along more recently. What I was trying to say, and must have said poorly, was that there is a process to developing a football team and that it doesn't happen in an instant, but that in the opinion of this old football fan, watching the process of development is an enjoyment in itself. It is very rare that any team is going to play at peak effeciency for every single game of an entire season. In fact, I can't even think of an example where it has happened. And it is my opinion that fans who don't appreciate the process of development are missing something really fun, interesting, and even beautiful. It seems like, in my opinion, that those fans not only miss something really, really enjoyble, but also make themselves miserable at the same time. The thing that really sets me off, and does tend to bring me out of very long term lurk mode, is when some of these fans who are making themselves miserable at unmet expectations start visciously attacking the best coaching staff I have seen yet at developing a team over an entire season. I actually think that last year was possible their worst job of coaching, but I am willing to forgive them because in my opinion there were some unprecedented circumstances, including tebow mania, that made the entire season very strange. Besides, 13-1 is a keeper. As for this year, I do have concerns even after the KY game. In fact, I now have a new concern that we may become too predictable in the red zone now that Trey has been discovered. However, where I think I differ from some who are not as old and worn out as I am, is that I do wear pollianna brand orange and blue glasses so I trust this great coaching staff to give us the best season achievable with this collection of experience and talent that we have on this team. I will celebrate every win no matter the score and I will enjoy every minute of watching these guys develop and grow. Even if there is no championship earned this year, and I am a long way from giving up on that hope, I will still enjoy this season and look forward to a large group of these guys coming back next year to try again. And every once in a while, I will "fire off" a post that will hurt the feelings of someone who posts a lot more often than I do if I think they are unfairly criticizing a staff who has earned every bit of our trust and respect. Rick aka as alag8r since the mid-80's or originalalag8r on gator country. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Platt" <pcga...@tampabay.rr.com> To: <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 11:08 PM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator offense finds its identity > Cee, > > Like most things, this whole sordid affair has a mushroomed way out of > proportion. Someone, who rarely posts, fires off the entitlement email > because Scott, Woody and Keith are frustrated with Gators performance. BTW, > the aforementioned poster, has not posted since posting his entitlement post > except for one quick retort to Woody, that sent Woody on a walk about. Then > Scott, Woody, and Keith, assume that entitlement poster speaks for all of us > on Gator Talk and take exception and viola' here we are. My personal > opinion is we all could use a little better understanding of the fact that > no one person on this list speaks for all, no matter which opinion they may > hold. Terms like I think or my opinion is are much easier to relate to than > generalization as Gator Nation, everybody, or anybody. No one wants words > put in their mouths or, heaven forbid, have their Gator loyalty questioned. > I am not the biggest fan of the wording of some of the posts posted on > GatorTalk, but I will defend anyone's right to post whatever they feel, > within GatorTalk 's stated guidelines. Anytime you get a group of people > together to discuss anything you will have different opinions, very few > opinions will be changed on the spot, however you may be able to start the > process of change by giving someone something else to consider. > > > Randy Platt > aka "PCGator" > aka "The Armchair Quarterback" > aka "The Other Randy" > > Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Cecilia > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:12 PM > To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] [Foxsportsflorida.com] Gator > offense finds its identity > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Baldwin" <ke...@baldwinnc.com> >> My concern lies in people that think we don't have any problems, willing >> to >> accept whatever excuses they hear and don't want to think through what >> their >> eyes are seeing. > > Who has done that? Even those of us who have said we're happy with a 4-0 > season and the team is performing at about the level we expected have > acknowledged repeatedly that there is room for improvement. Of course there > > is. These are young men who have a lot to learn. No one has denied that. > > I don't know how disagreement with what someone wrote has come to be seen as > > personal attacks. Other than the "Pollyanna" label, which the Pollyannas > among us bear proudly, I haven't seen any name-calling. I like reading the > different perspectives and opinions, and I'd hate to think that any of us > are not free to disagree with anything said here. > > I can tell you guys are nervous as cats on a hot tin roof right now, > anticipating and even dreading the Bama game. That kind of anxiety always > manifests itself in a big meltdown here on GatorTalk. Always has. Y'all > chill out. Have a beer or something. Stop being so touchy. > > Cee > > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
