We had not made ANY of those plays all seasons. Call it what you want, Mullen played the odds, and they were in his favor. It worked. You can't argue against that...
________________________________ From: Shane Ford <goufgat...@bellsouth.net> To: "gatortalk@googlegroups.com" <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 8:21:51 AM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen As Steve pointed out - it almost didn't work for Mullen Saturday night. We had several opportunities to tie it or even win. This team to me is lacking the fire to win that Meyer coaches teams used to show. Shane Ford Sent from my iPhone Go Gators! On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, "Charlie" <ces1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > He played "not to lose" We used to have a coach around here named Doug > Dickey that made that saying famous or infamous. That strategy worked for > Mullen last Saturday but it won't work very often imo. > Charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Scott Lucas > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:41 AM > To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen > > 30 straight running plays worked. He played to his team's strengths and his > opponent's weakness. That is how you win. You don't want to win? > > That's not brilliance, that's no secret formula, that is common sense... > > > > "Charlie" <ces1...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> We've already got a Mullen and his name is Meyer/Adazzio. I personally >> don't want anybody who calls 30-some straight running plays. I don't >> mind playing a bit conservatively when you've got a lead but no Woody Hays > please. >> >> _____ >> >> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Jerry Belloit >> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:04 PM >> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen >> >> >> >> Stacey and others, >> >> >> >> I know right now that there is a growing envy of Mullen. However, it >> may well be that Meyer compliments Mullen in a way that Mullen cannot >> do for himself. According to several articles on Mullen and Meyer that >> I have read lately, Mullen has a somewhat abrasive personality. When >> Tim Tebow was recruited, Meyer had to overcome the negative view Tim had > about Mullen. >> >> >> >> The question is how would the Gators have been if Mullen had not left >> Florida. That is a fair question. Would the Gators have gone >> undefeated last year with Mullen? I am not convinced yet. Would our >> record have been better this year? Perhaps. I personally believe that >> the biggest problem Addazio has is having to do the offensive >> coordinator's job as well as the assistant head coach and offensive >> line coach. Perhaps we should promote one of our other coaches to >> offensive coordinator. The rumor was that >> <http://www.gatorzone.com/football/staff/azzanni> Zach Azzanni coached the > Sugar Bowl Game. >> >> >> >> Jerry >> >> >> >> From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Stacey Hartley-McBride >> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 8:11 PM >> To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen >> >> >> >> Scott, were you a fly on the wall at our Gator viewing party up here in >> Washington? All these observations were made while, of course, >> imbibing good Washington reds. I am going to need to re-stock our >> cellar handsomely if our beloved Gators continue to play the way they > played last night! >> >> On to looking for those Gator sales... >> >> Stacey >> >> >> >> "They say statistics are for losers, but losers are usually the ones >> thinking that," Meyer said. "Statistics are great." >> >> <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/40.gif> GATORS >> RULE!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: Scott Lucas <floridagat...@yahoo.com> >> To: Gator Talk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sun, October 17, 2010 8:16:38 AM >> Subject: [gatortalk] I miss Dan Mullen >> >> Let me preface this by saying some of you may not like this: We have >> not been very good since Dan Mullen left, and HE may be the reason for >> Urban's success at Florida and previously. >> >> >> >> Let that sink in. >> >> >> >> Without Dan, Florida's offense is lifeless. A shell of its former self. >> Former? Yes, former... as in when Mullen was here calling the shots. >> Oh sure, Adazzio had a great offense against Cincinnati. Whoopie! It >> was >> Cincinnati-- hardly a perennial power, not from a powerhouse >> conference, and they got exactly what any middle of the road SEC would >> give them. That is Adazzio's best game. A game in which he had 3 >> weeks to prepare. He has not accomplished anything real other than that. >> >> >> >> As for Dan, why is he the key to UM's success? He makes his offense >> work with what he has. He inherited Chris Leak, the offense was >> modified, and we won with him. Won it all. We had our Tebow years, >> modified the offense, and we won with him. Mullen leaves, we have a >> Leak clone, we don't modify and we are losing horribly. But what has >> Dan done? He went to an underachieving school. Looked at what he had, he > modified and is winning. >> He took a perennial cellar dweller and is making it work, with someone >> else's recruits because a good carpenter can work with the tools he has... >> >> >> >> Dan does what MUST be done to win. He ran the ball 29 out of 30 times >> against us. Why? It was working and it was what he needed to do to win. >> He saw what Alabama did to us up the middle, and he copied it. He say >> what LSU did to us, and he copied it. He is adjusting... modifying. >> He is doing what must be done to win, and he did it with far less >> quality of player than Bama and LSU had. This does not bode well for us. >> >> >> >> Our coaches insist on running an offense that is ill suited for our >> personnel. Dan wouldn't do this. We are trying to force TOO many >> square pegs into round holes. Dan wouldn't do this either. >> >> >> >> You think it is just about Brantley? It is not. Without adequate >> blocking, and by adequate I mean they open a hole occasionally, running >> backs will go nowhere. Especially a 190 pound running back when you >> run right up the middle. It doesn't matter how fast you are when all >> there is in front of you is a wall of defenders. We have no solid >> tight end threat. We have hybrids. We have kids playing positions >> that they can play but maybe shouldn't be playing, at least not yet. Dan > wouldn't do this. >> >> >> >> We have a complete and total lack of a deep threat. Are all these blue >> chip recruits suddenly slow? Or can Brantley just not complete the long > ball? >> Or are we just plain not calling them? And where is the mention of our >> QB coach? Why have we heard nothing about him or in regards to him? >> Is he all of a sudden a bad coach? I haven't heard his name mention since > Tebow left. >> Wasn't Dan Mullen also our QB coach? >> >> >> >> Or, just maybe, this offensive line, supposedly the strength of the >> team, can't even figure out what to do with this offense either. They >> may be ill suited for the zone blocking and reads that the first half >> offense relies on. They seem to do MUCH better in the second half when >> Brantley starts throwing it around, when they are told to man up and >> block a person instead of an area. Again, an area in need of much >> change-- similar to what Dan has done with MSU. Take what you have, >> evaluate it, figure out what you do well, and then ride that horse. 29 out > of 30 rushing plays. The one pass? >> A shovel pass, practically a running play as well. Dan does what you >> have to do to win. He does what works. >> >> >> >> We see this week in and week out, yet no adjustment, no improvement, no >> change. Its as if we (and dare I say it?) are stubborn just like SOS >> was when his passing game didn't work. What did Spurrier do when you >> squashed his passing? He continued to throw it, bound and determined >> to show the world a thing or two and that it will work. Well, by then, >> it didn't... and we would lose. I see that all over again, except this >> time it is this bastardization of the spread offense. When you stop >> our 3 or 4 plays, that we call 10 times each a game, we don't seem to >> make any changes until the second half. >> >> >> >> So what happens in the second half? We let Brantley be Brantley! We >> open it up a little, we hit the quick routes DOWNFIELD and not behind the > LOS. >> We throw the out patterns, we mix it up, and we become more effective. >> >> >> >> Sure, the defense has relaxed. They already know they have us exactly >> where they want us. They know we are not explosive and are no longer a >> quick strike offense, so maybe they do drop back into a soft zone. But >> in the past 3 games, the offensive output, cohesiveness, drive >> sustaining plays have been there!!! We have converted the third downs, >> and even teams protecting a lead want to stop those. >> >> >> >> So why do we NOT do this going into the first half? Why not setup the >> run by passing? Make them defend that middle zone, soften the corners >> up, and force the defense to attack downfield in a pass rush which >> would create running lanes when we do hand it off. Instead, the >> defense holds the line, blitzes at will from the ends and pummels our >> backs and quarter back. Yet, we do nothing til halftime to adjust? >> >> >> >> So what is the difference between Dan and no Dan? Effectiveness. Period. >> MSU came out with a game plan that worked. We did not. They scored >> ALL of their points in the first quarter and then rode that game plan >> for an entire 60 minutes and won. Dan did what they had to do to win. >> >> >> >> We came out with the same offense that hasn't worked in weeks. We beat >> our head against that wall for 30 minutes. We made half time >> adjustments, and we moved the ball much more effectively just like in the > Bama and LSU games. >> Three games, all identical, and all with the same results. Those >> coaches did what they had to do to win. >> >> >> >> I would love for the Gators come out and throw in the first have like >> we have been forced to do in the second half. But, if we CHOSE to >> throw in the first half, we set the tempo and we control the defense. >> By sticking to this same ol' mockery of the spread, we are playing >> right into the defense's game plan. We are NOT doing what we have to >> do to win. Its as if we are trying to prove that this can and will >> work, results be damned! You don't look at the Bama, LSU, and MSU >> defense and think we are going to run at them. We didn't change. Dan > would have. >> >> >> >> We must change. We must adapt. And it must not happen during the >> halftime speeches. >> >> >> >> Do SOMETHING! >> >> >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >> (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >> (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >> (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us >> >> -- >> GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! >> 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions >> 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions >> 2008 National Football Champions | >> Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel >> (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us > > -- > GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! > 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions > 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions > 2008 National Football Champions | > Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), > Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball Champions 2008 National Football Champions | Three Heisman Trophy winners: Steve Spurrier (1966), Danny Wuerffel (1996), Tim Tebow (2007) - Visit our website at www.gatornet.us
