Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Rivals.com]: Buckeye linebacker calls foul on race-baiting Gators

Cecilia Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:58:49 -0800

Sure.. honky is what they meant.  They should have just said that.  LOL.
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I will place a small wager that our guys neither meant "native Floridian with
bullwhip" nor the British term for braggart. It's pretty obvious what they
meant.

On 1/4/2012 4:11 PM, Jerry D. Belloit wrote:
This is too funny. Obviously, the poor guy lacks education. There is
nothing racial about calling someone a cracker. In Florida, the term may have
originated with the Florida cattlemen who used their bull whips to "crack" near
the animal's ear to move them out of the swamp. The other origin of the word
which is still used in some parts of Britain is "braggart."

Jerry

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Subject: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [Rivals.com]: Buckeye linebacker calls
foul on race-baiting Gators

Please. In the context of normal interaction, there is no place for racial
slurs. But this is a football game, and in the heat of battle, things are said,
will be said, and always have been said that cross the line as to what is
acceptable in normal human interaction. Is it nice? of course not. Did Tim
tebow take part in it? Highly unlikely, but holding all players to that
standard is ridiculous.

If the players were still yelling any kind of insults at each other long
after the game was over I think that would indicate a problem.

I think this bucknut is just being a wuss.

Steve McKibben

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Tue Jan 03 01:39pm EST

Buckeye linebacker calls foul on race-baiting Gators
By Graham Watson (Rivals.com)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Buckeye-linebacker-calls-foul-on-race-baiting-Ga?urn=ncaaf-wp12427

Trash talking is as old as football itself. A player baiting another player
with a taunt or threat is usually par for the course during any game,
especially a game between rivals or with championship significance.

So, it was no surprise that Monday's Gator Bowl between Florida and Ohio
State - two teams that have loved Urban Meyer - had a little more vitriol than
usual. What was surprising was the type of caustic comments being said.

Ohio State linebacker Tyler Moeller said Florida players hurled racial
slurs at him throughout the game and that that sparked some of the chippiness
during the 24-17 Florida win.

"They're classless. That's the way I'd put it," Moeller said, according to
Marcus Hartman from Buckeye Sports Bulletin. "I've never seen more people swing
at our players and call us racial slurs. I've never been called a 'cracker'
more in my life than I have today. So I don't really have much respect for them
in terms of that but they're a good team. They came out and outplayed us today."

I'll be the first to admit I've never heard a player complain about this in
terms of reverse racism (which is still just racism) and really, you rarely
hear about this type of thing at all on the collegiate level, though it
probably exists. I'm sure there was a slew of unsavory things said on that
football field, but who knew the "C-word" was still a racial slur that anyone
used?

I'm not trying to make light of the situation, but I thought it went out of
style after comedian Chris Rock ran the slur into the ground during his HBO
special in 1999. The word is probably as relevant now as some of the words used
in the infamous 1975 "Saturday Night Live" skit "Racist Word Association
Interview" with Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor.

I do wonder what other things he and other players were called and what
they might have yelled back? I'm sure there was some profanity dropped that
probably drew more anger - and some colorful rebuttal - than the "C-word."

Ohio State defensive back Travis Howard, who is from Miami, told Hartman
that that kind of trash talk is common in the state of Florida.

It's interesting that in other leagues, especially soccer leagues where
there are many different ethnicities on one field, this kind of stuff is
severely punished. Unfortunately, this will probably go relatively unnoticed.

Moeller actually doesn't have the best luck in the state of Florida. In
2009 while vacationing with his family, Moeller was punched in a Florida bar
and suffered a skull fracture and a serious brain injury. Doctors told him he'd
never play football again, but he returned to the field a year later.

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