Mabuhay,
 
Guys I guess lets just move on and let messenger alone. I know we already had said enough to reson out. I guess he already get the message. besides I do not wish this e-group to appear like we are attacking anyone who has a different opinion. It might discourage others to join in a discussion group like this.  You know what I mean, they might think its not ok to open up without convicting him whats in his mind..
 
redjie

 
On 4/28/06, VGL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kudos to Aman, Somu, Samir, Manoj and many others for constructive discussion. Mr. Messenger is the only exception here. He talks about religion but does not understand that no religion preaches hatred or intolerance. For "sane" people there is always a Universal religion above all religions. This universal religion is about humanity, about all lives being equal, about love and respect for all, about compassion, and about tolerance. Messenger needs to stop misusing and exploiting religion to spread intolerance which manifests hatred. People who are intolerant think that they are better than others, that their view and interpretation (or rather misinterpretation) of religion is the only right view, and that their way of doing things is the only right way. If God created all then it was God who created homosexuals alongwith heterosexuals, and non-sexual. 
 
Peace,
Raj

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    From: "Messenger" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:13pm(PDT)
Subject: Re: Warning for gays ..(attn Mr. Messenger) "no compulsion in
religi

Brother Aman,
  I am not doing any good if i dont show my brother(s) the right path.
If a child wants to jump from a tall building someone has to stop him
from doing that.
  
  I initially quoted from Quran and i can also quote further from the
Bible which i think would be enough proof. Besides that, for better
understanding i was also quoting from different sources.
  
  I am here to speak the truth.
  
  finally i just want to say that It is not my duty to convert anyone
but just to spread the message as mentioned in the Quran :
  
  2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is
clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and
believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which
shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.
  
  QURAN: In Surah AN-NAHL chapter number 16 verse number 125
"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful
preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy
Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive
guidance. "

  
  ~Messenger.
 

A B < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    Mr. Messenger,
  
  You call me brother and then you ignore what I have been saying to
you all along. How can you conveiently find all kinds of research
material from the net and elsewhere just so that you can back up your
arguments with data and equip yourself with "proof" and completely disregard
what I have been explaining to you.


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