Hi Rakshas (scary name, dude !) I partially disagree with you. As you rightly said, commitment and monogamy are perceived differently by different people. Hence I say that commitment = mongamy is a simplistic assumption. What really matters is what the two partners BOTH agree on as a relationship. If sexual fidelity is not felt necessary by BOTH partners, who are others to judge them. There is no evidence we have before us which says that sexual fidelity improves the chances of a relationship working. It is simply a social concept we picked up as children from the current heterosexual society. Of course if one of the partners DOES NOT agree to an open relationship but the other still insists on covertly or overtly sleeping around, then that's covered under the "don'ts" list as "disgracing or degrading the partner", isn't it !
Cheers Salil RAK SHAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, having read ur response to suhail's mail am happy to note the points listed. what I miss therein are words and their meaning as "committment" and "monogamity". though these may be perceived differently my different ppl, I personally feel that they are as important as any others listed and lack of them is definately a negative drain on any longterm relationship. thanks RAKSHAS ----- Original Message ---- From: hirejaime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 10:53:53 AM Subject: g_b Re: "every gay guy knows the scene of long-term-relationships among gays" Hey Suhail, What is the "scene" that every gay person is supposed to know about long-term relationships. It's all a matter of when someone truly wants to settle down. My partner and I would have been together for 21 years. He died ten years ago from cancer. My two best friends will be celebrating their 15th anniversary on Sunday. We're a group of friends in our mid 40s. Things we learned about relationships, whether it be romantic or friendship, is it must built on a solid foundation; open and honest communication are essential; and learning to give positive charges Praise, agreeing with a good idea verbally. Affection Understanding, listening Open and honest expression Connection and involvement Cooperation, and listening Acceptance, tolerance Fun, humor Honor, speaking well of partner Showing positive interest Verbal tenderness Caring Forgiving spirit Validation Empathetic This is what I believe are negative drains on a relationship Criticism (attacking partner's actions) Contempt (condescending or belittling partner) Defending your option Emotional or verbal withdrawal Isolation Seeking too much control or power Disapproval of mate's uniqueness Bad moods, sulking Disgracing or degrading partner Disinterest Harshness Neglecting joy or sadness Vindictive attitude Invalidation Falsely interpreting motives or feelings Cheers! Jaime --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Salil <salilmumbai@ ...> wrote: > > > Hey Suhail > > You imply that gay men are generally uninterested or incapable of long term relationships. This may be your experience, but please don't generalise - --------------------------------- Download prohibited? No problem! CHAT from any browser, without download.