Hi Rakshas (scary name, dude !)

I partially disagree with you. As you rightly said, commitment and monogamy are 
perceived differently by different people. Hence I say that commitment = 
mongamy is a simplistic assumption. What really matters is what the two 
partners BOTH agree on as a relationship. If sexual fidelity is not felt 
necessary by BOTH partners, who are others to judge them. There is no evidence 
we have before us which says that sexual fidelity improves the chances of a 
relationship working. It is simply a social concept we picked up as children 
from the current heterosexual society. Of course if one of the partners DOES 
NOT agree to an open relationship but the other still insists on covertly or 
overtly sleeping around, then that's covered under the "don'ts" list as 
"disgracing or degrading the partner", isn't it !

Cheers
Salil


RAK SHAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                                  
Hi,
  
 having read ur response to suhail's mail am happy to note the points listed.
 what I miss therein are words and their meaning as "committment" and 
"monogamity". though these may be perceived differently my different ppl, I 
personally feel that they are as important as any others listed and lack of 
them is definately a negative drain on any longterm relationship. 
  
 thanks
  
 RAKSHAS


 ----- Original Message ----
From: hirejaime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 10:53:53 AM
Subject: g_b Re: "every gay guy knows the scene of long-term-relationships 
among gays"

  Hey Suhail,

What is the "scene" that every gay person is supposed to know about
long-term relationships. It's all a matter of when someone truly wants
to settle down. My partner and I would have been together for 21
years. He died ten years ago from cancer. My two best friends will be
celebrating their 15th anniversary on Sunday. We're a group of friends
in our mid 40s.

Things we learned about relationships, whether it be romantic or
friendship, is it must built on a solid foundation; open and honest
communication are essential; and learning to give positive charges

• Praise, agreeing with a good idea verbally.
• Affection
• Understanding, listening
• Open and honest expression
• Connection and involvement
• Cooperation, and listening
• Acceptance, tolerance
• Fun, humor
• Honor, speaking well of partner
• Showing positive interest
• Verbal tenderness
• Caring
• Forgiving spirit
•  Validation
• Empathetic

This is what I believe are negative drains on a relationship

• Criticism (attacking partner's actions)
• Contempt (condescending or belittling partner)
• Defending your option
• Emotional or verbal withdrawal
• Isolation
• Seeking too much control or power
• Disapproval of mate's uniqueness
• Bad moods, sulking
• Disgracing or degrading partner
• Disinterest
• Harshness
• Neglecting joy or sadness
• Vindictive attitude
• Invalidation
• Falsely interpreting motives or feelings

Cheers!

Jaime

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Salil <salilmumbai@ ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Hey Suhail
> 
> You imply that gay men are generally uninterested or incapable of
long term relationships. This may be your experience, but please don't
generalise - 








       
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