Hi!

On 2019-12-02T14:50:42+0000, Julian Brown <jul...@codesourcery.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 15:43:29 +0100
> Thomas Schwinge <tho...@codesourcery.com> wrote:
>
>> > --- a/libgomp/openacc.h
>> > +++ b/libgomp/openacc.h
>> > @@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ typedef enum acc_device_t {
>> >    /* acc_device_host_nonshm = 3 removed.  */
>> >    acc_device_not_host = 4,
>> >    acc_device_nvidia = 5,
>> > +  acc_device_gcn = 8,  
>> 
>> There is no 'acc_device_gcn' in OpenACC.

My point is, the OpenACC specification defines 'acc_device_t', and we're
now adding/using a non-standard value, 'acc_device_gcn'.  Depending on
how you read the specification, it may be allowed for an implementation
to provide additional/different values, but for good reason, OpenACC 3.0,
A. "Recommendations for Implementors", still "gives recommendations for
standard names [...] to use for implementations for specific targets and
target platforms, to promote portability across such implementations".

>> Per OpenACC 3.0, A.1.2. "AMD
>> GPU Targets", for example, there is 'acc_device_radeon' (and "the
>> case-insensitive name 'radeon' for the environment variable
>> 'ACC_DEVICE_TYPE'").  If that is not appropriate to use (I have not
>> read up how exactly AMD's "GCN" and "radeon" relate to each other),
>> we should get that clarified in the OpenACC specification.
>
> FWIW, I'm pretty sure there are Radeon devices that do not use the GCN
> ISA.

But does an OpenACC user really care?  Are users likely to state: "I have
a GCN card", or rather: "I have an AMD GPU card", or even just: "I have a
card with a big AMD logo on it"?

Admittedly, users are probably unlikely to state: "I have a Radeon card",
heh?  ;-) (But it's still the standard name defined in the OpenACC
specification.)

> OTOH, there are also Nvidia devices that are not PTX-compatible.

(But not any recent (as in a few years old) ones, capable for GPGPU
computing, are there?)

But again: "I have a card with a big Nvidia logo on it" is probably what
users care about, not whether that is internally using PTX or anything
else, which then is the implementation's job to sort out, when
'acc_device_nvidia' is requested by the user.

> No strong opinion on the acc_device_foo name from me, though (maybe
> "acc_device_amdgcn"?).

Once/if we have established that the standard 'acc_device_radeon' is not
suitable for us here, only then we should think of a new name, in my
opinion.  You wouldn't just add a 'copy_mem' function to glibc given that
'memcpy' already exists?  ;-)


Grüße
 Thomas

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