On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 1:40 PM Jeffrey Law via Gcc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 6/24/2026 11:30 AM, Andrea Pinski via Gcc wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2026 at 9:52 AM Jonathan Wakely via Gcc <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> >> Currently we document that GNU Make 3.80 is required. That was
> >> released in 2002. GNU Make 3.81 was released in April 2006. I would
> >> like to suggest that 20 years is enough time for 3.81 to be
> >> widespread.
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> >> Bumping the requirement to 3.81 would allow us to use the $(abspath
> >> ...) function, which we already started using in libstdc++, not
> >> realising that it relies on a newer version than our docs require.
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> >> 3.81 also has $(lastword ...), $(realpath ...), $(or ...), and $(and ...).
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> >> GNU Make 3.82 from 2010 adds the .ONESHELL feature but maybe 2010 is
> >> too modern for our tastes ;-)
> > I am ok with this. I thought we already required a much newer gnu make
> > anyways for auto-dependencies but it looks like I was wrong.
> Certainly happy to see if move forward, 3.80 is ancient.  I think all
> the make-4 issues affecting us have been sorted out.  But I doubt
> there's appetite to move that far.
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> jeff

3.81 is the version of GNU Make that Apple still ships with Xcode, FWIW

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