On 14 September 2010 00:16, Steven Bosscher <stevenb....@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Manuel López-Ibáñez > <lopeziba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I understand the benefit that existed before clang. And my general >>> understanding is that clang C++ support is not yet complete, so there is >>> a benefit there, but only a temporary one. I don't see a real benefit >>> going forward. >> >> Access to all the other GCC front-ends that the LLVM project has not >> (yet) reimplemented? Someone provided above a real user-case for >> gcc->llvm involving Fortran. I don't think dragon-egg development is >> stalled at all. > > And some (including yours truly) consider this little more than theft. > Especially since there is GCC-bashing on the one side, and taking the > bits they like on the other. > > >>> Since for me benefits to users of gcc are pretty much the same as >>> benefits to gcc, yes, I see a benefit. >> >> By that rule, it is clearly beneficial for some gcc users to compile >> Fortran using dragon-egg to take advantage of OpenCL. Ergo, dragon-egg >> is beneficial to GCC. > > No it "is" not, you "think it is", i.e. opinion. Again, I don't share > that opinion at all, because this means there is less motivation for > developers to add OpenCL to GCC itself.
In the same sense that adding clang->gcc means that there is less motivation for developers to improve the current C/C++ FEs. So I guess you are against this as well. But then, just a few mails above, you are the one who proposed adding clang to gcc in the first place. Sorry, it seems a contradiction to me and I cannot get my head around it. > Anyway, we're waaaaaaaaaaay off-topic here from the original question > about improving ObjC in GCC. Well, the discussion is whether it makes sense to replace the ObjC FE with clang directly. I would say you disagree, but then you proposed it. I am ambivalent since my understanding is that replacing parts of GCC is bad. But then Richard and Ian surprised me by being in favour because it would benefit gcc users. I am just trying to make sense of it. Cheers, Manuel.
