Trump’s Indonesia Projects, Still Moving Ahead, Create Potential Conflicts 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/world/asia/indonesia-donald-trump-resort.html?_r=0
 
 By RICHARD C. PADDOCK and ERIC LIPTON http://www.nytimes.com/by/eric-lipton 
DEC. 31, 2016
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 Setya Novanto, speaker of the Indonesian House of Representatives, with Donald 
J. Trump in New York in 2015. Later that year, Mr. Setya was forced to leave 
his leadership post temporarily because of corruption allegations. 
CreditRichard Drew/Associated Press

 

 JAKARTA, Indonesia — One resort, planned as the largest in Bali, will overlook 
a spectacular Hindu temple. The other, in the verdant hills of West Java, will 
adjoin a theme park. The properties will be so luxurious 
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/trump-hotel-collection-announces-second-resort-in-asia-300141229.html,
 the Trump Organization says, that even an impressive five-star rating will not 
do them justice. So it will give them six stars 
https://www.trumphotels.com/bali instead.
 Even as President-elect Donald J. Trump 
http://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/donald-trump?inline=nyt-per promises to end 
foreign business deals that could pose conflicts of interest — there will be 
“no new deals” while he is in office, he has said — his company is moving ahead 
with two Indonesian projects that illustrate how tricky that pledge might be.
 None of the construction work to build or renovate structures at the 
Indonesian resorts has even begun, but Mr. Trump has forged relationships with 
powerful political figures in Indonesia 
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/indonesia/index.html?inline=nyt-geo,
 where such connections are crucial to pushing through big projects.
 
 That tangle of relationships includes an Indonesian business partner who 
aspires to high office; a powerful politician accused of trying to extort 
billions of dollars from an American mining company; as well as Mr. Trump’s 
adviser on regulatory issues, Carl C. Icahn 
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/i/carl_c_icahn/index.html?inline=nyt-per,
 who is a top shareholder in the same mining company.
 The resort projects, which a Trump spokeswoman said this past week were 
“binding contracts,” have created a gray area of conflicting interests that 
could be hard to separate from an array of issues facing the United States and 
Indonesia, including trade and contested claims over the South China Sea.
 Mr. Trump’s local partner 
https://twitter.com/MNCNewsroom/status/634201421232009216?lang=en on the 
resorts, Hary Tanoesoedibjo, is a billionaire media mogul with his own 
political ambitions. He ran for vice president of Indonesia in 2014 and is 
organizing a political party for another possible run at national office in 
2019. If Mr. Hary or his party wins a major role in government, the potential 
conflicts could escalate significantly.
 “You could have two world leaders that are business partners,” said Richard W. 
Painter, who served as a White House ethics lawyer during the George W. Bush 
administration. “It makes it almost impossible to conduct diplomacy in an 
evenhanded manner. That does not work.”
 Through the partnership with Mr. Hary, Mr. Trump has gained access to some of 
Indonesia’s top political figures, including Setya Novanto, the speaker of the 
House of Representatives, who was temporarily forced to surrender his 
leadership post because of corruption allegations in 2015. Mr. Setya was heard 
on an audio recording seeking a $4 billion payment 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/world/asia/indonesia-freeport-mcmoran-setya-novanto.html?_r=0
 from the American mining giant Freeport-McMoRan.
 Months before the recording came out in December 2015, Mr. Trump met with Mr. 
Setya during the presidential campaign at Trump Tower. After their lunch, Mr. 
Trump pulled Mr. Setya before  https://youtu.be/YbCBFRVcii4the  
https://youtu.be/YbCBFRVcii4cameras https://youtu.be/YbCBFRVcii4 at a news 
conference and called him “a great man,” adding, “We will do great things for 
the United States.”
 The knot of potential conflicts includes Mr. Icahn, the billionaire investor 
who will serve as a special adviser 
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/21/us/politics/peter-navarro-carl-icahn-trump-china-trade.html
 to Mr. Trump. He is one of the largest shareholders in Freeport, which does so 
much business in Indonesia that it is the country’s largest taxpayer and has 
been seeking to extend its mining contract with the Indonesian government.
Photo 

Tourists at the Tanah Lot temple in Bali, Indonesia, in July. A Trump resort is 
to be built on a site overlooking the temple. CreditMade Nagi/European 
Pressphoto Agency “This stuff is so murky,” said Karen Hobert Flynn, president 
of Common Cause, a nonprofit group that has called for Mr. Trump to sell off 
his businesses 
http://www.commoncause.org/democracy-wire/trump-business-conflicts-of-interest-are-very-real.html
 to avert conflicts of interest. “It is not going to be clean moving forward. 
There are going to be complications as these projects move forward.”
 So far, Mr. Trump has provided little clarity about what he means by “no new 
deals,” a vow made in a Twitter post 
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/808529888630239232 he sent out in 
mid-December. His aides suggested in a series of interviews during the past 
week that even if construction had not started on a project, the Trump 
Organization would move ahead if it had a binding agreement.
 For Mr. Trump, the Indonesian deals are licensing and management agreements in 
which he provides the use of his name and his company manages the resorts.
 Even though no structures were built, Mr. Trump secured a considerable payout 
on the two deals, according to a financial disclosure report 
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3247725-Trump-2016-Financial-Disclosure.html
 that listed payments ranging from $1 million to $5 million for each of the 
projects between January 2015 through last May. That is far more than the 
$400,000 salary paid to the president, which Mr. Trump has said 
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/646012458059067392?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
 he will decline.
 Mr. Trump created the corporations that manage these projects — including DT 
Bali Hotel Manager 
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3248796-DT-BALI-HOTEL-MANAGER-Donald-Trump-Bali-entity.html
 and DT Lido Hotel Manager 
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3248797-DT-Lido-Hotel-Manager-Donald-Trump-Lido-entity.html
 — in late June https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2r8swl/dt-marks-bali-llc 2015 
http://nydos.lookupbook.net/dt-marks-lido-llc-new-york-ny, just a week after he 
declared his intention to run for president. 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/us/politics/donald-trump-runs-for-president-this-time-for-real-he-says.html?_r=0
 His companies already have operations in at least 20 countries, including the 
Philippines 
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/us/politics/donald-trump-international-business.html,
 India 
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/politics/donald-trump-india-business.html,
 Turkey and Britain 
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/business/with-a-meeting-trump-renewed-a-british-wind-farm-fight.html?_r=0,
 but the full extent of his foreign financial ties is unclear because he has 
refused to release his tax returns or disclose the identity of his lenders.
 In addition to the no-new-deals pledge, Mr. Trump has said that his sons, Eric 
and Donald Jr., along with other executives, will manage the family’s global 
real estate business.
 The Trump Organization has recently moved to r 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/24/us/politics/trump-family-conflicts.htmlesolve 
potential controversies 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/24/us/politics/trump-family-conflicts.html, in 
part by closing family foundations. It has also dropped a number of its 
proposed projects, including Trump Office Buenos Aires 
http://internacional.elpais.com/internacional/2016/11/06/argentina/1478456754_226440.html
 in Argentina; Trump Towers Rio http://www.trumptowersrio.com/ and Trump Hotel 
Rio de Janeiro 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/world/americas/donald-trump-hotel-rio-brazil-investigation.html?_r=0,
 both in Brazil; Trump International Hotel & Tower Baku 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.prnewswire.com_news-2Dreleases_trump-2Dhotel-2Dcollection-2Dannounces-2Dtrump-2Dinternational-2Dhotel-2D-2Dtower-2Dbaku-2D281425361.html&d=CwMFaQ&c=0Z6kaK2gE4DV23xJiV3durr6BPoNXbPx1co_fqsb6wM&r=LFtb3COSkwqkJfmx69ZP3DdS4G7IvOm_kGiepjLlxgk&m=87O0yBVqzAb4LBXEqv_Tgi49zjatzOYYVdwgQqkQ-ZY&s=8E4WfskRImLFIf6DubLQlcrP2R6zh1OZpcMJ7BCutcs&e=
 in Azerbaijan; Trump Tower Batumi 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jfa.nyc_portfolio_11a10-2D02-5Ftrump-2Dtower-2Dbatumi_&d=CwMFaQ&c=0Z6kaK2gE4DV23xJiV3durr6BPoNXbPx1co_fqsb6wM&r=LFtb3COSkwqkJfmx69ZP3DdS4G7IvOm_kGiepjLlxgk&m=87O0yBVqzAb4LBXEqv_Tgi49zjatzOYYVdwgQqkQ-ZY&s=hicAEpXt8yZfMDs2Y9LzM9oBBN877TTZgNg9U9LyNEI&e=
 in Georgia; and Trump Riverwalk in Pune, India 
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3247430-Ganti-Associates-TRUMP-RIVERWALK.html,
 representatives from the Trump Organization have said in the past week, in 
response to questions from The New York Times.
 But other projects — including some on which construction has not started or 
is not well underway — are moving ahead, including Trump Tower Mumbai  
http://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/india/trump-tower-mumbai/and a Trump 
tower in Gurgaon, both in India 
http://www.ireoworld.com/uploads/ireo-new/IREO-Trump-Partnership2.pdf; Trump 
Tower Punta del Este  http://www.trumppuntadeleste.com/in Uruguay; Trump 
International Golf Club, Dubai,  http://www.trumpgolfdubai.com/and Trump World 
Golf Club, Dubai http://www.trump.com/golf/trump-world-golf-club-dubai/, both 
in the United Arab Emirates; and Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver 
http://www.trump.com/hotel-collection/vancouver/trump-intl-hotel/, in Canada, 
the Trump Organization confirmed.
 Amanda Miller, the Trump Organization spokeswoman, said of the two Indonesian 
projects, “Construction is well underway and will proceed as planned.”
 In fact, construction has started only on a golf course and toll road as part 
of the Lido Lakes resort in West Java. Separating the enterprise from politics 
may also be difficult because Mr. Hary’s MNC Group is building the road to the 
site as part of a government highway project.
Photo 

Hary Tanoesoedibjo in Jakarta in 2013. Mr. Hary, Mr. Trump’s partner in two 
Indonesian resorts, thinks that business agreements signed before Mr. Trump 
takes office should not present a conflict of interest for him as president. 
CreditKemal Jufri for The New York Times No new structures have been built at 
Lido Lakes or at the resort near the stunning Tanah Lot temple 
http://www.bali-indonesia.com/magazine/tanah-lot.htm in Bali. A 20-year-old 
hotel, the Pan Pacific Nirwana Bali Resort, stands on the Bali property and 
could be renovated to create a Trump hotel, but that work has not begun.
 In a recent interview in his Jakarta office, where an autographed Make America 
Great Again cap sits prominently on a table, Mr. Hary said he believed that his 
agreements with Mr. Trump did not present a conflict of interest for the 
president-elect.
 “His family and children have the freedom to do business as long as it is 
arm’s length and unrelated to the president’s position,” he said.
 The two resorts will give the Trump brand a high profile in Indonesia — which 
has the world’s largest Muslim population — with the Trump name adorning two 
luxury hotels and premier golf courses as well as high-end villas and 
condominiums. Yet the American president’s name on the projects could also make 
them potential targets. During the campaign, Mr. Trump made statements about 
Muslims widely viewed as inflammatory. American hotels in Jakarta 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/world/asia/17indo.html have been attacked by 
terrorists several times.
 Mr. Hary said he began the partnership with Mr. Trump in 2015 when he was 
looking for a hotel partner for the resorts, but said he had negotiated a deal 
with his children before ever meeting with Mr. Trump.
 “It’s the children who run the company,” he said.
 After signing one deal and negotiating the other, he helped arrange a meeting 
in New York in September 2015 between Mr. Trump and his good friend, Mr. Setya, 
the House speaker, and Fadli Zon, the deputy speaker, whose district includes 
the city of Bogor, where the Lido project is.
 Mr. Trump met the two politicians and several others for lunch at Trump Tower, 
where, among other things, they discussed the resort projects, the participants 
said.
 “He was very warm, very enthusiastic,” Mr. Fadli said. “He likes Indonesia. He 
knows about his investment in Indonesia, in Bali and Bogor. And he likes 
Indonesia, a big democratic Muslim country.”
 After lunch, Mr. Trump invited the Indonesians to join him downstairs for a 
campaign news conference, they said. When the event was ending, Mr. Trump 
brought Mr. Setya to the lectern and introduced him to the crowd, calling him 
“one of the most powerful men, and a great man.”
 Mr. Trump then turned to Mr. Setya. “Do they like me in Indonesia?” he asked.
 Mr. Setya smiled and replied “yes.”
 The event drew criticism in Indonesia, where some accused the Indonesian 
politicians of meddling in a foreign election. But Mr. Setya and Mr. Fadli said 
they had been invited to the news conference and it would have been impolite to 
refuse.
Photo 

A woman with a cutout of Mr. Trump in Jakarta in November. CreditDita 
Alangkara/Associated Press “Nowadays, after Trump became president-elect, 
people came to appreciate what I did,” Mr. Setya told The Times in a recent 
interview.
 Mr. Setya, who heads Parliament’s second-largest party, said he had requested 
another meeting with Mr. Trump before his inauguration to discuss a possible 
business deal, although he declined to say what it was. He said he also would 
carry a message to Mr. Trump from the Indonesian president, Joko Widodo.
 Soon after returning from the New York meeting with Mr. Trump in 2015, Mr. 
Setya became embroiled in scandal. He was heard on the audio recording asking 
for 20 percent of the shares of Freeport’s Indonesian subsidiary in exchange 
for helping the company extend its operating contract with the government. The 
value of the shares was about $4 billion.
 The episode exploded into a Watergate-style moment 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/world/asia/indonesia-corruption-setya-novanto.html,
 with the local news media repeatedly playing the damning portions of the 
recording to a rapt public. Mr. Setya defended the demand as a joke.
 Mr. Setya was recently reinstated as speaker after a court ruled the recording 
was inadmissible as evidence.
 Freeport is a frequent  
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/world/asia/below-a-mountain-of-wealth-a-river-of-waste.html?_r=0target
  
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/27/world/asia/below-a-mountain-of-wealth-a-river-of-waste.html?_r=0of
 complaints by labor unions and environmentalists, and nationalist politicians 
want it to pay the government higher royalties. Its operating contract expires 
in 2021.
 Mr. Fadli said he could see a role for President Trump in resolving the thorny 
Freeport issue. “Definitely he has to be involved in that because it is a big 
investment,” he said.
 Mr. Painter, the former White House ethics lawyer, said these complications 
demonstrated why Mr. Trump’s company should not be involved in foreign property 
deals like those in Indonesia.
 “They should be trying to pull out of deals around the world like this, rather 
than trying to expand,” he said.
 On Wednesday, Mr. Trump accused the news media of exaggerating any potential 
conflicts presented by his business holdings.
 “It’s not a big deal; you people are making it a big deal, the business,” Mr. 
Trump said on the steps of his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, where he was 
spending the holidays. “They all knew I had big business all over the place.”
 
 Richard C. Paddock reported from Jakarta, and Eric Lipton from Washington.

 A version of this article appears in print on January 1, 2017, on Page A1 of 
the New York edition with the headline: Despite Conflict Risk, Trump Projects 
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