On Sep 27, 2011, at 3:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
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On 2011-09-27 02:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I think that Pd should startup with a blank Pd window, just like a
blank
canvas. The new log levels makes this easy to accomplish. Gem is
the
last library in Pd-extended that still uses post() for its version
message. I propose using the new 0.43 logpost(NULL, 3, "Gem
version);.
Then by default, the Pd window is blank, but people can easily see
all
the version posts if they want to.
i don't see a point in using logpost() as is, for two reasons:
- - logpost() is there since 0.43, i want the Gem binaries to work
on 0.42
and possibly 0.41
this is not a big problem for PdX, where you ensure that the pd binary
is accompanied by "matching" externals, but it is a problem if you
distribute binary builds of the external.
This can easily support any Pd version with an #ifdef, I'll add that.
- - logpost() is mainly there to post verbose information that is
attached
to an object. the Gem version is not attached to any object.
I wrote logpost() to do both. Just set the object to NULL and it just
posts.
apart from that, i don't see much harm done in seeing a 10 line
splashscreen.
on the contrary, i really think that people should be made aware that
they have loaded Gem.
and people could use a lower log level to suppress these messages.
but feel free to report a feature request.
It is a specific complaint I have heard from many people starting out
with Pd. They find it intimidating and confusing that the first thing
they see is a window full of text that they don't understand. That's
one reason. Another reason affects all Pd users, when you hit File-
>New, you get a blank window. Following this tradition in Pd, the Pd
window should also start out blank, unless there is an error. The new
log window allows the best of both worlds, just change to log level 3
if you want to see all the version messages. And log level 2, you only
see important messages.
The only disadvantage that I can see is that there will be a little
#ifdef in the code, but I am sure Gem has many, so this is a small
thing. I'm about to submit a patch, look for it in the pd-gem tracker.
.hc
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