Hi Dan,

I'll get back to you on this in the next days.

Regards, Albert
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Subject: RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-psamp-framework-12

It is not clear to me whether the issues raised in the Gen-Art review
were addressed. I would suggest that the editors provide an answer to
all issues raised in Ben's review before we submit this document to the
IESG.

Thanks and Regards,

Dan





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Albert Greenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-psamp-framework-12
>
> HI Ben,  Thanks!  I see psamp security considerations as
> somewhat similar to those in ipfix, as was noted in Section
> 4.3.   This discussion can be clarified and improved in the
> document.   Regards, Albert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:33 PM
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> Subject: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-psamp-framework-12
>
> I have been selected as the General Area Review Team
> (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART,
> please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html).
>
> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call
> comments you may receive.
>
>
> Document:  draft-ietf-psamp-framework-12
> Reviewer: Ben Campbell
> Review Date:  10/4/2007
> IETF LC End Date: 10/5/2007
> IESG Telechat date: (if known)
>
> Summary:
>
> This document is almost ready for publication as in
> informational RFC, but there is a potential open issue as
> well as a number of nits that should be addressed prior to
> publication.
>
> Comments:
>
> Open Issue:
>
> Section 12:  Security Considerations
>
> The security consideration section seems too lightweight. It
> simply calls out some security related requirements elsewhere
> in the document, and offers no additional discussion.  It is
> not clear to me that the referenced sections described the
> requirements from a security perspective--it would be useful
> to describe in section 12 _why_ those requirements are
> important for security, and what potential security issues or
> attacks they are intended to prevent.
>
> More importantly, PSAMP seems to me to have lots of privacy
> implications, which the PSAMP charter appears to acknowledge
> with its mention of privacy and anonymity issues. In my
> opinion these warrant discussion in this section.
>
> nits:
>
> General:
>
> There are an unusually large number of authors listed in the
> Author Addresses section.  Did all of these contribute
> substantial text to the document?
>
> There is a lot of language which appears to me to be
> normative, but does not follow normal capitalization for
> normative statements. I realize this is an informational
> document, but I gather the intent is to define terms. The
> document often states that an element described by a term
> "must" have certain features or meet certain requirements.
> This feels like a place where normative language, with
> appropriate capitalization makes sense. (This interacts with
> a specific comment on section 2 below)
>
> This document states a number of requirements that might be
> referenced by future documents. If there is any intent that
> other document be evaluated for compliance with the
> requirements herein, it would be useful to break such
> requirements out and number or otherwise label them so they
> can be easily referenced in other documents.
>
> Section numbers are inconsistent in the use of a trailing
> period. This makes searching for section headings difficult.
>
> idnits returns the following warnings:
>
>   == Outdated reference: A later version (-08) exists of
>       draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-07
>
>    == Outdated reference: A later version (-07) exists of
>       draft-ietf-psamp-info-06
>
>    == Outdated reference: A later version (-26) exists of
>       draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-24
>
>
> Abstract: Is it appropriate to give mail list information in an RFC?
> This document will live forever, and I assume the mail list
> will become obsolete some time before that.
>
> After ToC but before section 1: There's a strange repeat of
> draft boilerplate after the ToC but before the Intro. I
> assume it's a formatting error.
>
> Section 2, first paragraph: "Definitions of terminology and
> the use of the terms "must", "should" and "may" in this
> document are informational only."
>
> I'm not sure what to make of this disclaimer. This document
> places a number of requirements on devices it describes. Are
> those not normative, at least in the sense that a device that
> does not meet certain requirements should not be labeled a
> PSAMP device, etc?
>
>
> Bottom of page 9: ASCII art crosses the page boundary in a
> way likely to confuse the reader.
>
> Section 4.4 Last Paragraph, last sentence: Comment about
> feasibility and complexity of PSAMP operation feels like a
> non sequitur. Why is it mentioned in a section about configuration?
>
> Section 5.2: The section heading is orphaned from contents by
> a page break. This can be confusing to the reader.
>
> Section 5.2 paragraphs 3 and 4: I suggest switching the
> order, since the first refers to the second, and there
> appears to be no reason to maintain the current order.
>
> Section 5.2 paragraph 5: n-out-of-N sampling: While this may
> be a term of art of which I am not familiar, it's generally
> not a good idea to distinguish two variable names by case alone.
>
> Page 15, sixth paragraph: "When the PSAMP device offers
> property match filtering..."
>
> This paragraph has interesting implications that a PSAMP
> device may have other purposes other than metering, e.g. it
> may also be a router, etc. While this may seem obvious to the
> writers, it may not to all readers. I suggest explicitly
> mentioning that in the definition of PSAMP device in section
> 3. Also, since the next few paragraphs talk about how routers
> should expose information for PSAMP purposes, a separate
> subsection talking specifically about routers acting as PSAMP
> devices might be helpful.
>
>
>
>



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