Ben Campbell wrote:
(+ART ADs)
On 26 Feb 2016, at 14:43, Vijay K. Gurbani wrote:
Minor: - S1, "Other RAI working groups develop extensions to SIP
that do not change the core protocol, new applications of SIP, and
other technologies for interactive communication among humans."
Are we intentionally limiting interactive communications only to
"humans"? I would suspect that this would be limiting, no? A
bunch of SIP SUBS/NOTs happen between automaton, or machines.
Surely we don't want to exclude these in the future. My
suggestion would be to simply take out the phrase "among humans"
Hi Vijay,
Ben: Thank you for considering my comments. Inline, please.
Actually, the "human" part was intentional. RFC5727 was primarily
about technologies for human communication. Certainly some of those
technologies may be dual use (e.g. XMPP, SIP-Events), but the reason
they were historically in the RAI area is that the primary use cases
under consideration involved humans, or supported those that did.
I suspect that your view as an AD may be more nuanced than mine, but I
must admit that I am not entirely comfortable with limiting ART to
"human communications", as would be implied by the text as currently
written.
Certainly nothing in rfc3261 explicitly limits communications to humans.
Those boundaries are more blurred now since the merger of APP and RAI
into ART. But 5727 was primarily about the SIP change process. That
text in section 1 is intended to describe the scope of 5727, and in
section 3 to describe the subset of ART wgs that historically would
have been considered RAI.
(I do note the use of RAI that probably needs to be fixed, or at
least put into past tense.)
I believe that dropping the phrase "among humans" from the paragraph
does not impact any aspect that at least I can observe, and may indeed
have the benefit that no one in the future will claim that SIP cannot
be used for m2m communications because of the limiting phrase.
Cheers,
- vijay
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