Fred,

I agree with you.
Especially with handkraft information, there won't be 'references'.
You can't reference what your grandmother or great-grandmother taught you.
Same is true with fairytales or folklore.
I'd like to post some of the Irish tales my grandmother taught me.
I haven't seen them published.   It would be a shame for them to die
because some bonehead decided there should be a published 'reference'.
Which means I won't be able to post what I know, what isn't in any of the
hundreds of sewing books I own, from the 19th century til 2011.
So, I'm rethinking my plans of eventual posting.  I don't want to get caught
in a shit storm.
What I love is what I love, I don't want it spoiled by argument.

Plus Danese's article about the car wasn't self-published, so where's the
catch?
Let it stand...

- Susan


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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:48:09 -0600 (MDT)
> From: "Fred Bauder" <fredb...@fairpoint.net>
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Woman posting on Wikipedia about knitting,
>        needs investigating
> To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects"
>        <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <40246.66.243.192.69.1302731289.squir...@webmail.fairpoint.net>
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> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 13:35, Sarah Stierch <sa...@sarahstierch.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Wow, the talk page is insane, and is one reason why I "gave up" in the
> >> beginning.
> >>
> >> I might take a stab on my own userspace to re-write this article. I'm
> >> somewhat addicted fixing crappy BLP's. Perhaps I'll send it your way
> >> (here)
> >> before I post it.
> >>
> > Could someone say again which article and talk page we're discussing?
> > I've looked at this one --
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danese_Cooper -- but can't see the issue.
> > Ditto with the talk page.
> >
> > Sarah
>
> Here is the removal of the information about knitting:
>
>
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Danese_Cooper&diff=347000261&oldid=345360328
>
> Removed again:
>
>
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Danese_Cooper&diff=347000261&oldid=345360328
>
> This is where it was put in:
>
>
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Danese_Cooper&diff=prev&oldid=341488635
>
> Seems harmless enough, and hardly requires a substantial reference.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
>
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