Sarah Speak for yourself. I'm also a woman and i don't see that "you're not welcome" in his comment, and also can't see why that particular comment would in some way made girls run out commons. _____ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> (351) 963 953 042
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.* 2011/5/23 Sarah <slimvir...@gmail.com> > On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 16:32, Bob Sponge > <metzgerhandwerk.hat.tradit...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > dear sarah > > > > i want to give you a small feedback about your entries here about a > > comment i did. (i found this list with a notice on my userpage in the > > german wikipedia) > > > > "Pro i like her big tits :-) Bunnyfrosch (Diskussion) 22:59, 2 January > > 2011 (UTC)" > > > > there were 2 contra votes before, one argued not educational and > > questioned: "Why manga woman rhymes with big tits?" the other replies > > the "not educational" accusation. both arguments are bullshit in my > > opinion. because all is educational or nothing, but i am to obliging > > to told a another users his/her meaning is bullshit. for example if i > > want to know how a piece of shit looks like, a picture of a piece of > > shit ist educational, and if i want to know something about the > > frontieres of texas, a picture of a map coult very > > helpfully/educational. if people naming something not educational, > > they want to say somthing diffrent. ( note this is my personal pov!) > > but they vote this way, but really really often simply mean: "i hate > > this pic" or "i hate this user" or "i hate every kind of nudity in the > > commons" > > > > in german i often give persons a longer feedback, in english i spare > > the longer feedback. (you can read why^^) so i choose a short pro > > vote, applying to the first contra. and by the way, i am not addicted > > to big or small boobs - i couldn't care less! > > if i had choose a longer explanation for my vote, it would like: > > "wikipedia needs well draught anime pictures, with common licences, > > this one is a great animation of a girl or transsexual in a beautyfull > > landscape". so, thats the reason i vote with pro. > > > > but there was no need for a argumentaion, when the contra-side argues > > with "not educational" > > > > i hope this will help you, to understand my diction in the comment. > > > > best regards > > le frog du rabbit > > > Bob, thanks for your explanation. It's appreciated. > > The thing is this: some of us would like to attract more women editors > to Wikipedia, so that women have more of a voice, and perhaps also to > change the culture of Wikipedia a little. > > It's arguably not in a woman's interests to hang around on a talk page > where people are posting about big tits. It may be in the project's > interests to have more women there, but it's hard to see how it could > be in the interests of the individual women. > > It doesn't really matter what the intention is behind the words, > because all we see are the words themselves. For some women (not all, > but some), these words effectively mean, "The way you see the world is > not represented here," or "Go away." > > That's one of the reasons it's a problem. > > Sarah > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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