Thank you Fran. (I sent the email to the group mailing list).

On Tuesday 26 July 2011 11:12 AM, SUSTAIN GREEN wrote:
> Hi Achal,
>
> I am not sure how I came to receive this email, but yes I will look at 
> the site and watch the film and give some feedback and consider 
> participation in a broader discussion.
>
> I will also circulate the project more widely among the concealed 
> expert group.
>
> Cheers
>
> Fran
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Achal Prabhala <aprabh...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:aprabh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Greetings,
>
>     A group of us have been working on a project to explore the
>     possibility
>     of oral citations on Wikipedia, and inadvertently (and happily), it
>     turns out that there is a really interesting gender dimension that
>     came
>     up during the course of it.
>
>     The central problem we were trying to address was the lack of
>     scholarly
>     printed material outside the Anglo-European world, and how it affects
>     knowledge production on Wikipedia.
>
>     In the course of our work (and this may just be a coincidence) many of
>     the foremost experts on oral culture turn out to be women; for e.g.
>     Isabel Hofmeyr in South Africa and Urvashi Butalia in India. They both
>     have a host of interesting points to make in the film, and Urvashi has
>     one in particular worth nothing (described below, at point 38:35). She
>     talks - from experience as a feminist publisher over the years, and as
>     an oral historian, primarily of the stories of women from the
>     partition
>     of India - about how she finds that, often, the women who know don't
>     think that what they know is noteworthy.
>
>     I am aware of the research and debates that sparked off the
>     creation of
>     this list; I think there are several points in this project's
>     trajectory
>     (many of which are explained in the film) that have some bearing -
>     tangential and direct - on the 'gender gap'.
>
>     We'd be delighted if you might check out the project page, watch the
>     film and give us your feedback.
>
>     Cheers,
>     Achal
>
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject:        Oral Citations project: People are Knowledge
>     Date:   Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:38:20 +0530
>     From:   Achal Prabhala <aprabh...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:aprabh...@gmail.com>>
>     To:     Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>     <foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org
>     <mailto:foundatio...@lists.wikimedia.org>>
>
>
>
>     Dear friends,
>
>     At the beginning of 2011, a group of us began working on a project to
>     explore alternative methods of citation on Wikipedia. We were
>     motivated
>     by the lack of published resources in much of the non-Anglo-European
>     world, and the very real difficulty of citing everyday aspects of
>     lived
>     reality in India and South Africa.
>
>     We are now at a stage where the project is almost complete, and we'd
>     like to share our work with the broader movement, especially within
>     India and South Africa.
>
>     There are three languages we worked within: Malayalam, Hindi and
>     Sepedi.
>
>     The project page documents the process and logistics employed, as well
>     as the findings and results:
>
>     http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Oral_Citations
>
>     A film made on the project is available here:
>
>     
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People-are-Knowledge.ogv?withJS=MediaWiki:MwEmbed.js
>     http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People-are-Knowledge.ogv
>     or
>     http://vimeo.com/26469276
>
>     There have been discussions on oral citations for some time now within
>     the language communities we worked with for the duration of the
>     project.
>     At this stage, we are really interested in *your* feedback, either on
>     this list, or on the Discussion section of the project page.
>
>     There are still some things to come, namely:
>
>     - Updates on events, meetings and discussions held around the project
>     (as they happen)
>     - Updates on articles created in Malayalam, Hindi and Sepedi as a
>     result
>     of the project (as they happen)
>     - English transcripts of the interviews and a full English
>     subtitle track
>     for further translation (we could use some help here).
>
>     We would be very grateful to hear your feedback, and begin a broader
>     discussion.
>
>     Best wishes,
>     Achal
>
>
>
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