Tangentially related story: http://raganwald.posterous.com/a-womans-story

Tom


On 3 April 2012 15:34, Lennart Guldbrandsson <l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com>wrote:

>  Yes, a course for very, very unexperienced programers would be great.
>
> And just to continue on that thread about pursuing your passion, I trust
> you have seen Sir Ken Robinson talk at TED?
>
> http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html
>
>
>
> Med vänliga hälsningar,
>
>
> Lennart
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> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 10:31:43 -0400
> From: sarah.stie...@gmail.com
> To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Giving Women the Access Code
>
>
> Nice article, thanks for sharing Lennart!
>
> “She was consistently told by teachers in 
> adolescence<http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/specialtopic/puberty-and-adolescence/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier>,
> then later by colleagues, that the things she was interested in were things
> women didn’t do, and that there were no good female mathematicians,” Dr.
> Pippenger said.
>
> It's reasoning like this, and the one that you quoted below about
> stereotypes, kept me from pursuing a degree in computer science. I remember
> looking into the school when I was a young undergrad and I felt so
> intimidated, and then was told that I'd have to take certain math classes.
> Which frustrated me, as I could do basic language coding and write html off
> the top of my head. I flunked the math classes I had to take, and 10 years
> later found out I had a math disability. (And it wasn't my parents who were
> telling me not to do it, it was professors, etc. Regardless of my poor math
> skills, almost every single person I know who codes jokes that "you don't
> *need* to know math."  Someday I'll take some classes in something (just
> for fun, I suppose)..or perhaps there will be a "N00bs super simple
> MediaWiki fun day that even your grandma could learn to code at!" event.
>
> I'm not disappointed with how my path curved and turned thus far, but,
> after reading *Unlocking the Clubhouse*[1] and every time I read an
> article like this, it just reminds me more and more of the experiences I
> had as a young person that kept me out of the lab. The odd thing, is that I
> ended up entering into a field that is upwards of 80% dominated by women. I
> wonder of computer science can take any cues from museum studies.
>
> On that note, I'm sure I'm not the only person on this mailing list that
> took a different path than the one they wanted due to popular and personal
> pressure.
>
> Sarah
>
> [1]
> http://www.amazon.com/Unlocking-Clubhouse-Computing-Jane-Margolis/dp/0262133989
>
>
> On 4/3/12 3:36 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>
> Via Mike Godwin:
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/03/science/giving-women-the-access-code.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
>
> <snip>
>
> “Most of the female students were unwilling to go on in computer science
> because of the stereotypes they had grown up with,” said Zachary Dodds, a
> computer scientist at Mudd. “We realized we were helping perpetuate that by
> teaching such a standard course.”
> To reduce the intimidation factor, the course was divided into two
> sections — “gold,” for those with no prior experience, and “black” for
> everyone else. Java, a notoriously opaque programming language, was
> replaced by a more accessible language called Python. And the focus of the
> course changed to computational approaches to solving problems across
> science.
> “We realized that we needed to show students computer science is not all
> about programming,” said Ran Libeskind-Hadas, chairman of the department.
> “It has intellectual depth and connections to other disciplines.”
>
> </snip>
>
> Most of the article is about Dr Maria Klawe, who seems to be a very
> inspiring person.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Lennart
>
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