It's a good idea - I'm also on the programme committee (or at least, I have
been the past three years..haven't heard any details on the upcoming
Wikimania yet).

-Sarah

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Christina - this sounds very interesting - would you be happy for me to
> propose it as a possible topic in the Wikimedia Conference, for which I'm
> on the programme committee?
>
> Chris
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Christina Burger <
> christina.bur...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Please allow me to briefly introduce myself before coming to the
>> point: I am Christina Dinar and I work at Wikimedia Deutschland for
>> 1,5 years now. Originally, I was employed to take care of community
>> projects that address newbies and enhance the diversity in Wikipedia
>> as well other Wikimedia projects. I came with the professional
>> background of doing workshops with young adults in political
>> education, doing diversity trainings in order to address some of their
>> existing social and violent behavioral problems with each other.
>> Somehow it never got to that moment that I could actually offer this
>> knowledge and experience to the German Wikipedia Community–my
>> professional focus here shifted and I started to work in other fields.
>>
>> Coming from this background, I could definitely offer a diversity
>> workshop at Wikimania, for functionaries as well as on the level of
>> introduction as a train-the-trainer. We even have developed diversity
>> guidelines (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Charting_diversity), that
>> theoretically frame the approach on diversity to the specifics of the
>> Wikimedia world. If I get some positive feedback on offering this
>> workshop at Wikimania–ideally not alone but with another interested
>> person–I am not sure what the best way to proceed is: Wait for the
>> submission process, or get in touch with the organizers to ask for a
>> room and time for this special workshop (as others did in the past)?
>>
>> I had drafted a proposal for our diversity conference back in 2013
>> that we could use and build upon - (it was very general at that time,
>> today I would address more the specfics of WM-movements..):
>>
>> Diversity? Deal with it! – Diversity as a concept has long development
>> in management and especially in human ressource management in order to
>> practically deal with diversity of people coming and working together
>> from different backrounds and levels of knowledge. This 45-min lasting
>> workshop you will actively engage in situations what actually to do
>> and how possibly to act when divers and different opinions, people and
>> backgrounds and communication cultures come together. Different
>> strategies will be developed within the group participants leaving
>> them with set of tools and strategies how to deal with diversity in
>> real life and the online world.
>>
>> I am very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
>>
>> Warmly,
>> Christina
>>
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>> 2014-12-14 23:06 GMT+01:00 Jim Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> yes, training could work at wikimania
>>>
>>> the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon,
>>> and a track at London
>>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme
>>>
>>> what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating <
>>> chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've added myself to the list of interested people :)
>>>>
>>>> Thinking out loud, would that kind of thing work in person at the
>>>> Wikimedia Conference and/or Wikimania?
>>>> On 12 Dec 2014 19:33, "Siko Bouterse" <sboute...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training
>>>>>
>>>>> And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training
>>>>> for such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see
>>>>> something like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth
>>>>> trying.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on
>>>>> functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day
>>>>> interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to
>>>>> facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla <regu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to
>>>>>> implement and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to 
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> they are because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how
>>>>>> they treat others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> the problem. So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity
>>>>>> training, I'm not sure how much it would help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating <
>>>>>> chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among
>>>>>>> otherwise well-intentioned community members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play
>>>>>>> leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, 
>>>>>>> arbitrators
>>>>>>> and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap 
>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>> because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can
>>>>>>> sometimes be a tool to exclude people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries
>>>>>>> to help broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> point of view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly 
>>>>>>> thankless
>>>>>>> roles better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some
>>>>>>> volunteer input); could it help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
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