I don't think you were on the Wikimedia Conference programme committee, Sarah - that's the one I was referring to...
Wikimania is a different kettle of fish - ideally we'd have something at both :) On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's a good idea - I'm also on the programme committee (or at least, I > have been the past three years..haven't heard any details on the upcoming > Wikimania yet). > > -Sarah > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com > > wrote: >> >> Hi Christina - this sounds very interesting - would you be happy for me >> to propose it as a possible topic in the Wikimedia Conference, for which >> I'm on the programme committee? >> >> Chris >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Christina Burger < >> christina.bur...@wikimedia.de> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Please allow me to briefly introduce myself before coming to the >>> point: I am Christina Dinar and I work at Wikimedia Deutschland for >>> 1,5 years now. Originally, I was employed to take care of community >>> projects that address newbies and enhance the diversity in Wikipedia >>> as well other Wikimedia projects. I came with the professional >>> background of doing workshops with young adults in political >>> education, doing diversity trainings in order to address some of their >>> existing social and violent behavioral problems with each other. >>> Somehow it never got to that moment that I could actually offer this >>> knowledge and experience to the German Wikipedia Community–my >>> professional focus here shifted and I started to work in other fields. >>> >>> Coming from this background, I could definitely offer a diversity >>> workshop at Wikimania, for functionaries as well as on the level of >>> introduction as a train-the-trainer. We even have developed diversity >>> guidelines (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Charting_diversity), that >>> theoretically frame the approach on diversity to the specifics of the >>> Wikimedia world. If I get some positive feedback on offering this >>> workshop at Wikimania–ideally not alone but with another interested >>> person–I am not sure what the best way to proceed is: Wait for the >>> submission process, or get in touch with the organizers to ask for a >>> room and time for this special workshop (as others did in the past)? >>> >>> I had drafted a proposal for our diversity conference back in 2013 >>> that we could use and build upon - (it was very general at that time, >>> today I would address more the specfics of WM-movements..): >>> >>> Diversity? Deal with it! – Diversity as a concept has long development >>> in management and especially in human ressource management in order to >>> practically deal with diversity of people coming and working together >>> from different backrounds and levels of knowledge. This 45-min lasting >>> workshop you will actively engage in situations what actually to do >>> and how possibly to act when divers and different opinions, people and >>> backgrounds and communication cultures come together. Different >>> strategies will be developed within the group participants leaving >>> them with set of tools and strategies how to deal with diversity in >>> real life and the online world. >>> >>> I am very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> Christina >>> >>> Christina Dinar >>> Team Communitys >>> >>> Volunteer Support >>> >>> >>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin >>> Tel. (030) 219 158 260 >>> Mobil: +49 17639238378 >>> http://wikimedia.de >>> >>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. >>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >>> unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das >>> Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >>> >>> >>> 2014-12-14 23:06 GMT+01:00 Jim Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> yes, training could work at wikimania >>>> >>>> the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon, >>>> and a track at London >>>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme >>>> >>>> what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating < >>>> chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've added myself to the list of interested people :) >>>>> >>>>> Thinking out loud, would that kind of thing work in person at the >>>>> Wikimedia Conference and/or Wikimania? >>>>> On 12 Dec 2014 19:33, "Siko Bouterse" <sboute...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for >>>>>> admins: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training >>>>>> >>>>>> And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing >>>>>> training for such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased >>>>>> to >>>>>> see something like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was >>>>>> worth >>>>>> trying. >>>>>> >>>>>> It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on >>>>>> functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day >>>>>> interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to >>>>>> facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla <regu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to >>>>>>> implement and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> they are because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how >>>>>>> they treat others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> the problem. So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity >>>>>>> training, I'm not sure how much it would help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating < >>>>>>> chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among >>>>>>>> otherwise well-intentioned community members. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play >>>>>>>> leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, >>>>>>>> arbitrators >>>>>>>> and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap >>>>>>>> problem >>>>>>>> because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can >>>>>>>> sometimes be a tool to exclude people. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries >>>>>>>> to help broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> point of view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly >>>>>>>> thankless >>>>>>>> roles better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some >>>>>>>> volunteer input); could it help? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Siko Bouterse >>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>> sboute...@wikimedia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share >>>>>> in the sum of all knowledge. * >>>>>> *Donate <https://donate.wikimedia.org> or click the "edit" button >>>>>> today, and help us make it a reality!* >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> > > > -- > > Sarah Stierch > > ----- > > Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. > > www.sarahstierch.com > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >
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