Oh, I do certainly think this should be a user's choice and one they could turn on or off. What do you all think about the whole thought?
I have been also reflecting on what others wrote about getting at the root of the issue instead of addressing symptoms only. The trouble with making awareness pieces is the people who generally take advantage of such awareness opportunities are people who are already aware of the issues. Allies have been proven to affect bullying in schools. Do you all think we could create allies in the community? How would you imagine it? This wouldn't affect the direct communications immediately, but perhaps it could impact a culture change with evolution of behavior norms. -- Jackiekoerner > On Feb 12, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Jonathan Cardy <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Risker, > > Clearly not everyone would opt into it if there was an option to do so. Do > you object to the idea of developing an option to opt in to email filtering? > > Regards > > Jonathan/WereSpielChequers > > >> On 12 Feb 2017, at 19:25, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am extremely, extremely uncomfortable with email moderation. I cannot >> emphasize this enough. Frankly, I'd rather the NSA be reading my mail than >> my fellow Wikimedians - they have no actual interest in anything that I'm >> writing. If moderation became standard, I'd shut off "email this user". It >> would be a cure far worse than the disease. >> >> It would also be unacceptable for the role accounts that are standard on >> many projects - on English, we have special role accounts that link directly >> to the Oversight mailing list, Arbcom, and a few other places. Not only are >> they moderated by the list owners themselves already, but the contents are >> usually far more confidential than would be appropriate for a moderator >> without the same level of access as the list itself. >> >> I do like the idea of being able to block emails from certain accounts or to >> only accept them from certain accounts. >> >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> >>> On 12 February 2017 at 08:04, Jonathan Cardy <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> Thanks Ryan and Chris, I've endorsed the Bethnaught proposal which covers >>> all of this idea except the email filter bits. I think the privacy issues >>> of a moderated email stream can be resolved by OTRS style checking of the >>> moderators. As for the staffing issues I'm optimistic that there are plenty >>> of people willing to help this sort of issue if we can identify a role for >>> them. If it does prove difficult to staff we could always make it a service >>> we limit to people who have had problems and asked for help as opposed to >>> an option in their email preferences. >>> >>>>> On 9 February 2017 at 22:36, Ryan Kaldari <rkald...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:44 PM, WereSpielChequers >>>>> <werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> The first would be to allow editors to set their email to only receive >>>>> from confirmed or even extended confirmed accounts. This would be >>>>> invisible to new editors, they'd just not see the email this user option >>>>> for people they weren't entitled to email. >>>> >>>> This is a great idea. I wish I had this now. >>>> >>>>> The second would be an opt in Email moderation service. Similarly to only >>>>> receiving email from confirmed or extended confirmed accounts, this would >>>>> enable editors to opt all or parts of their email via the "email this >>>>> user" function into a moderated stream. Much as with moderated posts to >>>>> lists like this, a list admin would see the email and either approve it >>>>> or take other action. You'd presumably need to having something on the >>>>> send email screen to say that "this editor has opted into email >>>>> moderation and your email will be delayed slightly before being screened >>>>> and forwarded" You'd also need a group of volunteers to do the >>>>> moderation, spot abusive emails and block abusers. >>>> >>>> Also a good idea, but I doubt it would be scalable. We have a hard enough >>>> time finding volunteers to moderate this mailing list, much less, hundreds >>>> of people's incoming email streams. Plus there would be serious privacy >>>> issues to worry about. >>>> >>>>> The third would be an AI driven filter that people could opt into and >>>>> which would screen emails going through this system and put high risk >>>>> ones into a moderation queue. >>>> >>>> This might be a more workable implementation of the previous idea. >>>> >>>> Another idea I've heard would be to let people use email aliases similar >>>> to Craigslist. That way you could respond to wiki-related emails without >>>> giving away your actual email address. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gendergap mailing list >>>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>>> visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gendergap mailing list >>> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >>> visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please >> visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
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