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------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D4EA.7FD473B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" I forgot, my XYL is a ham too.... I need to remind her to bring home some 609's..... -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [brluglist] Mandrake 8.2 letdowns... "XYL",?, Craig are you a ham? Bob "KB5DGI" "Banker, Craig" wrote: Ya...ya..ya brag on your fast machine. I'm due for a faster one soon. I may have to check out that os-less one at walmart.... If only I could sneak that past the XYL....Anyway, I made another attempt and most everything worked right. For the first 20 minutes of operation my HD was super busy: the machine idled around 20% utilitzation. I suspect the search daemon was doing it's initial run. It finished, following that I got everything configured and played around with it. My initial observation stands: it's extremely slow to launch apps on the desktop. Anyone know any tricks short of throwing more memory and hardware at it? -----Original Message----- From: Jason DeWitt [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [brluglist] Mandrake 8.2 letdowns... >> 1. The default install on my system took a while (approx 45 minutes) as compared to 8.0 which took considerably less. It went pretty quick for me, I've got a Celeron 550 with 448 ram. Actually it was faster than 8.0 or 8.1 >> 2. The install did not allow me the option of not installing the bootloader (perhaps because I chose recommended?) I've done both an expert (I usually choose this one) and a recommended install, on the expert it will let you customize the bootloader all you want. >> 3. The install didn't allow me to set up x the way I wanted to... (maybe for the same reason) Right. =) >> 4. Booting up seemed much slower than usual. ( I use loadlin from a dos boot....fast) Does yours load Aurora (the pretty start up) on startup? Mine is and this version seems alot slower than previous versions. >> 5. Upon booting my system and logging in for the first time, I was confronted by the "Mandrake First Time Wizard" which pretty much prevented K from loading properly (i.e. up popped an app that bugged me for personal information - my system did not respond at all to key-board input, so I was locked out) The first time wizard would be pretty cool, *if* I was a first-timer. =) I usually just select my desktop and then hit cancel. Sometimes I just go ahead and make my .xinitrc and set it for my preferred desktop, but it seems to not like it if you don't let that wizard choose one first, then manually set it how you want it. >> 6. Getting into the second time worked; I discovered that the install program had misconfigured the audio (yamaha on-board) despite having detected and reported it correctly. (really no beg deal, I've never had this actually work...much less detect properly...) Soundcards suck almost as much as modems. =) >> 7. K would take an eternity to launch an app. (5 to 15 seconds...)Doesn't it always? ;-) >> Has anyone else experiemented with 8.2? I've installed it twice I think. The only problem is that I've yet to get the nvidia drivers to install right. Do they come installed by default? I don't get the nvidia logo when I start X but some stuff seems accellerated. I've always compiled them from source, but I think I will try the rpms this time. Jason -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Leche System Administrator Louisiana State University - Southern Regional Climate Center 260 Howe-Russell Building Baton Rouge, La. 70803 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 225 578 5023 ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D4EA.7FD473B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-15" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-15"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=993411517-26032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I forgot, my XYL is a ham too.... I need to remind her to bring home some 609's.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Robert Leche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:37 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [brluglist] Mandrake 8.2 letdowns...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>"XYL",?, Craig are you a ham? <P>Bob "KB5DGI" <P>"Banker, Craig" wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> <STYLE></STYLE> <SPAN class=972260714-26032002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Ya...ya..ya brag on your fast machine. </SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002>I'm due for a faster one soon. I may have to check out that os-less one at walmart.... If only I could sneak that past the XYL....</SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002></SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002>Anyway, I made another attempt and most everything worked right. For the first 20 minutes of operation my HD was super busy: the machine idled around 20% utilitzation. I suspect the search daemon was doing it's initial run. It finished, following that I got everything configured and played around with it. </SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002></SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002>My initial observation stands: it's extremely slow to launch apps on the desktop. Anyone know any tricks short of throwing more memory and hardware at it?</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002></SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002></SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> Jason DeWitt [<A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>]</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 25, 2002 10:26 PM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Subject:</B> Re: [brluglist] Mandrake 8.2 letdowns...</FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> 1. The default install on my system took a while (approx 45 minutes) as compared to 8.0 which took considerably less.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>It went pretty quick for me, I've got a Celeron 550 with 448 ram. Actually it was faster than 8.0 or 8.1</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> 2. The install did not allow me the option of not installing the bootloader (perhaps because I chose recommended?)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I've done both an expert (I usually choose this one) and a recommended install, on the expert it will let you customize the bootloader all you want.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> 3. The install didn't allow me to set up x the way I wanted to... (maybe for the same reason)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Right. =)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> 4. Booting up seemed much slower than usual. ( I use loadlin from a dos boot....fast)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Does yours load Aurora (the pretty start up) on startup? Mine is and this version seems alot slower than previous versions.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> 5. Upon booting my system and logging in for the first time, I was confronted by the "Mandrake First Time Wizard" which pretty much prevented K from loading properly (i.e. up popped an app that bugged me for personal information - my system did not respond at all to key-board input, so I was locked out)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>The first time wizard would be pretty cool, *if* I was a first-timer. =) I usually just select my desktop and then hit cancel. Sometimes I just go ahead and make my .xinitrc and set it for my preferred desktop, but it seems to not like it if you don't let that wizard choose one first, then manually set it how you want it.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> 6. Getting into the second time worked; I discovered that the install program had misconfigured the audio (yamaha on-board) despite having detected and reported it correctly. (really no beg deal, I've never had this actually work...much less detect properly...)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Soundcards suck almost as much as modems. =)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> 7. K would take an eternity to launch an app. (5 to 15 seconds...)Doesn't it always? ;-)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>>> Has anyone else experiemented with 8.2?</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I've installed it twice I think. The only problem is that I've yet to get the nvidia drivers to install right. Do they come installed by default? I don't get the nvidia logo when I start X but some stuff seems accellerated. I've always compiled them from source, but I think I will try the rpms this time.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Jason</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>-- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Leche System Administrator Louisiana State University - Southern Regional Climate Center 260 Howe-Russell Building Baton Rouge, La. 70803 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 225 578 5023 ----------------------------------------------------------------</PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1D4EA.7FD473B0-- ================================================ BRLUG - The Baton Rouge Linux User Group Visit http://www.brlug.net for more information. Send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to change your subscription information. ================================================