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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Leche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [brluglist] Mandrake 8.2 letdowns...


"XYL",?, Craig are you a ham? 

Bob "KB5DGI" 


"Banker, Craig" wrote: 


Ya...ya..ya  brag on your fast machine. I'm due for a faster one soon.  I
may have to check out that os-less one at walmart.... If only I could sneak
that past the XYL....Anyway, I made another attempt and most everything
worked right.    For the first 20 minutes of operation my HD was super busy:
the machine idled around 20% utilitzation.  I suspect the search daemon was
doing it's initial run.  It finished, following that I got everything
configured and played around with it. My initial observation stands: it's
extremely slow to launch apps on the desktop.  Anyone know any tricks short
of throwing more memory and hardware at it? 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Jason DeWitt [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:26 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [brluglist] Mandrake 8.2 letdowns...
>> 1. The default install on my system took a while (approx 45 minutes) as
compared to 8.0 which took considerably less. It went pretty quick for me,
I've got a Celeron 550 with 448 ram. Actually it was faster than 8.0 or 8.1
>> 2. The install did not allow me the option of not installing the
bootloader (perhaps because I chose recommended?) I've done both an expert
(I usually choose this one) and a recommended install, on the expert it will
let you customize the bootloader all you want. >> 3. The install didn't
allow me to set up x the way I wanted to... (maybe for the same reason)
Right. =) >> 4. Booting up seemed much slower than usual. ( I use loadlin
from a dos boot....fast) Does yours load Aurora (the pretty start up) on
startup? Mine is and this version seems alot slower than previous versions.
>> 5. Upon booting my system and logging in for the first time, I was
confronted by the "Mandrake First Time Wizard" which pretty much prevented K
from loading properly (i.e.  up popped an app that bugged me for personal
information - my system did not respond at all to key-board input, so I was
locked out) The first time wizard would be pretty cool, *if* I was a
first-timer. =)  I usually just select my desktop and then hit cancel.
Sometimes I just go ahead and make my .xinitrc and set it for my preferred
desktop, but it seems to not like it if you don't let that wizard choose one
first, then manually set it how you want it. >> 6. Getting into the second
time worked; I discovered that the install program had misconfigured the
audio (yamaha on-board) despite  having detected and reported it correctly.
(really no beg deal, I've never had this actually work...much less detect
properly...) Soundcards suck almost as much as modems. =) >> 7. K would take
an eternity to launch an app. (5 to 15 seconds...)Doesn't it always? ;-) >>
Has anyone else experiemented with 8.2? I've installed it twice I think.
The only problem is that I've yet to get the nvidia drivers to install
right. Do they come installed by default? I don't get the nvidia logo when I
start X but some stuff seems accellerated. I've always compiled them from
source, but I think I will try the rpms this time. Jason

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Louisiana State University - Southern Regional Climate Center

260 Howe-Russell Building

Baton Rouge, La. 70803

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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Robert Leche 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 26, 2002 
  10:37 AM<BR><B>To:</B> [EMAIL PROTECTED]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [brluglist] 
  Mandrake 8.2 letdowns...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>"XYL",?, Craig are you a ham? 
  <P>Bob "KB5DGI" 
  <P>"Banker, Craig" wrote: 
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    <SPAN class=972260714-26032002><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT 
    size=-1>Ya...ya..ya&nbsp; brag on your fast machine.&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN 
    class=972260714-26032002>I'm due for a faster one soon.&nbsp; I may have to 
    check out that os-less one at walmart.... If only I could sneak that past 
    the XYL....</SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002></SPAN><SPAN 
    class=972260714-26032002>Anyway, I made another attempt and most everything 
    worked right.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; For the first 20 minutes of operation my HD 
    was super busy: the machine idled around 20% utilitzation.&nbsp; I suspect 
    the search daemon was doing it's initial run.&nbsp; It finished, following 
    that I got everything configured and played around with 
    it.&nbsp;</SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002></SPAN><SPAN 
    class=972260714-26032002>My initial observation stands: it's extremely slow 
    to launch apps on the desktop.&nbsp; Anyone know any tricks short of 
    throwing more memory and hardware at it?</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
    class=972260714-26032002></SPAN><SPAN class=972260714-26032002></SPAN> 
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      <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT 
      size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT 
      face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> Jason DeWitt [<A 
      href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]</A>]</FONT></FONT> 
      <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 25, 2002 
      10:26 PM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B> 
      [EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT 
      size=-1><B>Subject:</B> Re: [brluglist] Mandrake 8.2 
      letdowns...</FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>&gt;&gt; 1. 
      The default install on my system took a while (approx 45 minutes) as 
      compared to 8.0 which took considerably less.</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
      face=Arial><FONT size=-1>It went pretty quick for me, I've got a Celeron 
      550 with 448 ram. Actually it was faster than 8.0 or 8.1</FONT></FONT> 
      <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>&gt;&gt; 2. The install did not allow me 
      the option of not installing the bootloader (perhaps because I chose 
      recommended?)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I've done both 
      an expert (I usually choose this one) and a recommended install, on the 
      expert it will let you customize the bootloader all you 
      want.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>&gt;&gt; 3. The 
install 
      didn't allow me to set up x the way I wanted to... (maybe for the same 
      reason)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Right. 
      =)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>&gt;&gt; 4. Booting up 
      seemed much slower than usual. ( I use loadlin from a dos 
      boot....fast)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Does yours 
load 
      Aurora (the pretty start up) on startup? Mine is and this version seems 
      alot slower than previous versions.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT 
      size=-1>&gt;&gt; 5. Upon booting my system and logging in for the first 
      time, I was confronted by the "Mandrake First Time Wizard" which pretty 
      much prevented K from loading properly (i.e.&nbsp; up popped an app that 
      bugged me for personal information - my system did not respond at all to 
      key-board input, so I was locked out)</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
face=Arial><FONT 
      size=-1>The first time wizard would be pretty cool, *if* I was a 
      first-timer. =)&nbsp; I usually just select my desktop and then hit 
      cancel.&nbsp; Sometimes I just go ahead and make my .xinitrc and set it 
      for my preferred desktop, but it seems to not like it if you don't let 
      that wizard choose one first, then manually set it how you want 
      it.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>&gt;&gt; 6. Getting into 
      the second time worked; I discovered that the install program had 
      misconfigured the audio (yamaha on-board) despite&nbsp; having detected 
      and reported it correctly. (really no beg deal, I've never had this 
      actually work...much less detect properly...)</FONT></FONT> <FONT 
      face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Soundcards suck almost as much as modems. 
      =)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>&gt;&gt; 7. K would take 
      an eternity to launch an app. (5 to 15 seconds...)Doesn't it always? 
      ;-)</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>&gt;&gt; Has anyone else 
      experiemented with 8.2?</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I've 
      installed it twice I think.&nbsp; The only problem is that I've yet to 
get 
      the nvidia drivers to install right. Do they come installed by default? I 
      don't get the nvidia logo when I start X but some stuff seems 
      accellerated. I've always compiled them from source, but I think I will 
      try the rpms this time.</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT 
      size=-1>Jason</FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>--&nbsp;

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