Michael A. Smith wrote:
Greg Stein wrote:

On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 12:49:08AM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

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In truth, I made a mistake in vetoing, since I never wanted to stop Peter, it was just a strong opinion but I wrongly threw in a -1... (ya know, it happens that we use it in discussing, just for opinions, but when you follow 28 lists it sometimes happens to make a mistake).

In the past, I've advocated that people avoid using -1 to mean "strong
against, but not a veto." It is just too confusing. People always end up
having to append "yah that's a veto" or "not a veto". Why the hell use the short numeric voting form if you just have to explain it in prose?

;-)

To that end, I adovcate using something like "-0.9" to mean you're against
it, but it isn't an official veto. Use -1 when you're actually vetoing.


I've always thought that's what -0 was for. 0 meaning it's not a vote that counts, and - to indicate you're against. If you throw qualitative words in there (like "strongly against, but don't want to actually veto"), then you'd need to explain that in prose.

In jakarta-commons, and I believe in other areas of jakarta, the voting "ballots" tend to look like this:

  [ ] +1 I am in favor of this action and will help
  [ ] +0 I am in favor of this action but cannot help
  [ ] -0 I am not in favor of this action
  [ ] -1 I am opposed to this action and here is why:

I think it works well.

Anyway, the bottom line is: "*never* use -1 if it's not a veto"

Anything greater than -1 (-0.9 , +1000, etc) will be regarded as being fancy ;-)

I think I'll go with -0.9 for strong opposition, anyway.

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