On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What I haven't seen is any good arguments as to why a-c is a step forward
> for j-c and not a big step back.

It is a step forward for Apache. Apache Commons offers a place where a lot 
more people will have access to an area where they can collaborate. From what 
I can tell there is a lot of people on board who have extensive community 
building experience. This has got be good for everyone - even the people at 
Jakarta.

Even if Jakarta Commons decides to stay separate from Apache Commons (which is 
the committers decision) I would hope that even A-C can help J-C by showing 
differents ways of seeing things. At absolute worst you may be able to 
inherit the infrastructure (SourceCast if thats a go) that A-C builds up (and 
it looks like Scott is onboard so you should be confident he will will help 
j-C).

No one in J-C objected when XML commons was created and it would have been 
good  if no one objected when Apache Commons was created. It would be much 
better for you to see this as a chance to spread your development style and 
successes to a wider audience.

-- 
Cheers,

Peter Donald
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