> To start over I went to the following link, as a suggested starting point. > > http://www.jsoftware.com/start.htm
Thanks, that page was written some time ago, and needs updating. The download page points to the up to date instructions, i.e. http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Installation/J804 . On 28 June 2015 at 13:07, Brian Schott <[email protected]> wrote: > I have had some serious frustration installing J804, even in the "default" > location. My installation is largely complete, but has triggered this post. > > To start over I went to the following link, as a suggested starting point. > > http://www.jsoftware.com/start.htm > > That page makes it seem that using J requires 2 step. > > a)download a system and then follow the install instructions and load J, > and then > > b) "get a quick overview of the language by selecting menu Studio|Labs, and > running the first few labs" . > > Those instructions leave a big gap though, because I assume that jqt is not > automatically installed for many operating systems. If not, between the two > steps one must install qtide (and maybe pacman). Otherwise, how does > someone find the "Studio|Labs" menu? It is in the jqt that has not been > installed, and even there it is buried in the "Help" menu. > > > Furthermore, the "Install" instructions are at the following link. > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Installation/J804 > > Within the "Overview" subheading at that link is the following quote, which > seems to me to be misleading and understated. For example, the phrase, > "Some include the", would be better replaced with, "Most exclude the almost > essential". > > "All distributions support Jconsole and JHS. Some include the Qt desktop, > which can also be installed separately, see Qt IDE." > > Shouldn't it also be stated that without that inclusion (slightly > different) Labs (and demos) are available differently in other ide's of J > such as jhs and jconsole. > > So, I am acknowledging that things have gotten quite complicated for a new > user, and even for a vet like me, to install J on a desktop computer. The > versatility of J has created quite a complex installation that needs to be > reviewed or discussed, in my opinion. > > > -- > (B=) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
