Since I don't have a machine, I can't verify that anything is wrong.  You
are failing in the third execution of show, using values that derive from
echo & might have rank 2.  Why don't you type out the value of z at each
recursion?

Henry Rich

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 6:53 PM Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> That missing final z would not be ok for 'safeshow' to function properly.
>
> But the problem here is not "how should 'safeshow' be changed to
> function properly?" -- the problem here is "how do we use the debugger
> to help us understand how J functions?" or perhaps "what is wrong with
> the debugger? / how do we get the debugger to work properly? / how do
> we understand J?"
>
> Specifically, why is z rank 1 for assert and echo when the computed
> result was rank 2?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 1:49 PM Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I am away from my machine, but I observe that the result of safeshow
> comes
> > from echo, not z.  Is that ok?
> >
> > Henry Rich
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 7:03 AM Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I am running into a problem, in J903 and J904 -- I haven't yet
> > > installed earlier versions of J on this machine.
> > >
> > > safeshow=: 3 :0
> > >   assert. 0 < N=:N-1
> > >   z=. ''
> > >   assert. 1=#$z
> > >   echo #$z
> > >   'l r'=. y{Kid
> > >   if. l<#Kid do.
> > >     z=. '(',(safeshow l),') '
> > >     assert. 1=#$z
> > >     echo #$z
> > >   end.
> > >   z=. z,(":y{Key),':','BR'{~y{Red
> > >   assert. 1=#$z
> > >   echo #$z
> > >   if. r<#Kid do.
> > >     z=. z,' (',(safeshow r),')'
> > >     assert. 1=#$z
> > >     echo #$z
> > >   end.
> > > )
> > >
> > >    Kid=: 1 2,_ 1,:_ _
> > >    Key=: 94 48 92
> > >    Red=: 0 1 1
> > >    N=: 3
> > >    safeshow 0
> > > 1
> > > 1
> > > 1
> > > |assertion failure: safeshow
> > >
> > > Now, there's a problem here with my data which triggers the assertion
> > > -- Kid should not contain any duplicate values other than _. But
> > > that's not what I am concerned with here.
> > >
> > > In Jqt, I enable debugging (control-K) and when the debugger pops up
> > > on the assert, I go back to the previous stack frame, and I find that
> > > z has rank 2, instead of rank 1.
> > >
> > > Specifically, it has the value '48:R',' (',:' '
> > >
> > > So, now I am trying to figure out what's gone wrong.
> > >
> > > Conceptually, I could accept that z was being modified by virtual
> > > block handling -- except there's no update to z which would have given
> > > it a rank 2 value.
> > >
> > > Another possibility here is that there's something specifically wrong
> > > with my machine. So: can anyone else reproduce this issue?
> > >
> > > And, ... the next most likely possibility is that there's something
> > > wrong with the J engine itself.
> > >
> > > Anyways, I'd like to get someone else's perspective here.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Raul
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