It does make sense to me to distinguish between the case when a company seeks to benefit from using the Hadoop name for their product and the case when a company uses Hadoop internally with some minor patches.
For example: large company creates a game-show playing appliance and explains that they have used Hadoop for some of the learning tasks. Not allowed if they applied more than 3 patches? Or: company claims they have a large Hadoop deployment and are looking for developers to help them with their Hadoop development work is not allowed? What's the alternative? Wanted: Powered by Apache™ Hadoop™ developers? Also, if thousands of changes are packaged together into one giant patch, is that allowed? Perhaps a similarity index (such as used by Git to determine if two files are similar enough to be considered a rename) would make sense? If 98% of the code is the same, would it be Hadoop if used internally and not sold/marketted as a product? Cheers, Joep ________________________________________ From: Eli Collins [e...@cloudera.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 9:23 AM To: general@hadoop.apache.org Cc: Apache Brand Management Subject: Re: [VOTE] Shall we adopt the "Defining Hadoop" page On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Allen Wittenauer <a...@apache.org> wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eli Collins wrote: >> Are we really going to go after all the web companies that patch in an >> enhancement to their current Hadoop build and tell them to stop saying >> that they are using Hadoop? You've patched Hadoop many times, should >> your employer not be able to say they use Hadoop? I'm -1 on a >> proposal that does this. > > I think there is a big difference between some company that uses > Hadoop with some patches internally and a company that puts out a > distribution for others to use, usually for-profit. The wiki makes no such distinction. The PMC will apply the rules equally to all parties. According to Owen's email if you are using a release of Apache Hadoop and have applied more than 2 security patches or any backports you are not using Hadoop. Thanks, Eli